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What does your desktop look like?

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Re: What does your desktop look like?

#5101 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Debian stretch now offers runit-init in the repositories and it seems to work very well indeed as a straight drop-in replacement for the init-system-that-shall-not-be-named:

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https://packages.debian.org/stretch/runit-init
runit is a cross-platform Unix init scheme with service supervision, a replacement for sysvinit, and other init schemes.

runit is optimized for reliability and small size. The amount of code in process no 1 should be minimal.
http://smarden.org/runit/
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Re: What does your desktop look like?

#5102 Post by Linadian »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:the init-system-that-shall-not-be-named
:lol:

Yes, but can you pin the unnamed init completely out of existence for the life of that install version? What apps will want to pull the unnamed init in? Enquiring minds want to know, dum dum dum dummmmmmm (for emphasis on the drama, lol). This is bittersweet good news though, I sincerely and deeply miss Debian. :cry:
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Re: What does your desktop look like?

#5103 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Linadian wrote:but can you pin the unnamed init completely out of existence for the life of that install version?
Alas not, my friend :(

The systemd-shim is in use along with systemd-udevd and systemd-logind is assigning the user sessions, as is required by any dbus-dependent programs:

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root@Helium:~ # pgrep -a systemd
407 /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd --daemon
1915 /lib/systemd/systemd-logind
root@Helium:~ #
But systemd is *not* booting the box and runit is firmly in charge:

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root@Helium:~ # cat /proc/1/comm
runit
root@Helium:~ #
It should certainly be possible to use runit-init in Devuan though, I may try that myself...

EDIT: I booted into a snapshot of the system and ran `apt purge systemd`, this removed the systemd-shim along with networkmanager and lightdm (among others) and I could not `startx` from a console login afterwards because of permission-related errors:

https://gist.github.com/Head-on-a-Stick ... 72078c3b3a

I will try to get this working...
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Re: What does your desktop look like?

#5104 Post by Linadian »

@Head_on_a_Stick, thank you for your very thorough answer, regardless of the info contained therein is somewhat troubling. :(
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#5105 Post by None1975 »

Perfect spectrwm minimalism
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Re: What does your desktop look like?

#5106 Post by scdas141 »

Sorry Gary.. changed it to a thumbnail..

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#5107 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

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#5108 Post by None1975 »

Debian 8.7 and Fluxbox
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Re: What does your desktop look like?

#5109 Post by GarryRicketson »

Debian 7.00 (wheezy) in 2017
with Open Box window manager
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~$ lsb_release -da
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:	Debian
Description:	Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 (wheezy)
Release:	7.0
Codename:	wheezy
 
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scdas141 » 2017-03-15 12:05
Sorry Gary.. changed it to a thumbnail..
Thanks, it looks good, (the desk top)

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Re: What does your desktop look like?

#5110 Post by scdas141 »

scdas141 » 2017-03-15 12:05
Sorry Gary.. changed it to a thumbnail..
Thanks, it looks good, (the desk top)
The apology is all mine.. By the way, Thanks from the bottom of our hearts for doing such a wonderful job of creating debian, supporting it on forums and helping out noobs like me..

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Re: What does your desktop look like?

#5111 Post by debiman »

scdas141 wrote:Thanks from the bottom of our hearts for doing such a wonderful job of creating debian
lol, i think you're giving garry (or in fact 99% of this forum's posters) a little too much credit...

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Re: What does your desktop look like?

#5112 Post by GarryRicketson »

You are welcome, but ,
We don't deserve the credit for the development of Debian, and it's creation.
Most every body here are Debian users, not developers.
In any even , as far as the forum goes, "your welcome", there are many members
that contribute, in trying to help other Debian users, etc.

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#5113 Post by Nili »

Personally, I appreciate the contribution and devoted time that Garry do on forum for people in need.

So, Thanks Garry! :P
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Re: What does your desktop look like?

#5114 Post by dust hill resident »

Screenshot from my laptop (130 KB, png image)
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#5115 Post by None1975 »

dust hill resident wrote:Screenshot from my laptop (130 KB, png image)
http://dusthillguy.ddns.net/folder/acer.png
Nice and simple. I like it!
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Re: What does your desktop look like?

#5116 Post by dust hill resident »

None1975 wrote:
dust hill resident wrote:Screenshot from my laptop (130 KB, png image)
http://dusthillguy.ddns.net/folder/acer.png
Nice and simple. I like it!
Thanks, I'm glad you like it.
I'm using a custom GTK theme which I made myself. If you or anyone here is interested in it, it's here: https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1173216/

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#5117 Post by ruffwoof »

I created a Debian 9 (Stretch) frugal (liveCD type style) by downloading the standard (console only) Debian Jessie liveCD and then updated that to the most recent updates, before changing the repository (/etc/apt/sources.list) over to stretch and then upgrade/dist-upgrade to that. In effect producing a Debian Stretch liveCD.

I then installed xorg and LXDE and booted that. Subsequently I've made loads of tweaks and added other programs (Libre, firefox-esr, skype ...etc) and its working really well

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For my setup I have a single ext3 partition that I installed grub4dos to (bootloader) that has two menu entries, one which is my more usual boot (as though a liveCD, but where everything is stored on the HDD) where changes aren't preserved between reboots, the other boots more like a full install, where all changes are preserved (read/write), that generally I only use to apply updates. i.e. as I extract all of /live/filesystem.squashfs to the / partition, which is also the save (persistence) partition, that can also be booted as though a cut down full install.

I do use a script that can enable changes recorded in memory during a liveCD type boot to be flushed to disk, so the livecd type (frugal) boot changes that are normally lost at shutdown can be made persistent/saved (handy for small updates rather than having to reboot into full boot type mode).

I like LXDE for my desktop and I move the taskbar to the top of the screen and add my more regular programs as icons within that panel. Simple, but functional. The order of those icons currently as per the attached image ... main menu, pcmanfm file manager, flush2disk (save liveCD type boot changes to disk), terminal, leafpad text editor, masterpdfeditor4 (PDF editor), Libre writer, libre calc (spreadsheet), galculator, mtpaint, htop, skype and firefox-esr. Over to the right I also have the shutdown menu launcher button, date/time indicator, osmo (calendar/diary), net (wicd), clipboard, sound (activates pavucontrol) and activity (CPU) monitor.

I've stuck with aufs, despite stretch being overlay based, as my save changes to disk script is aufs specific. The first partition (sda1) that is all loaded into is allocated 15GB and that's more than enough (only around 5GB of that is used which also includes around 1GB of document folder contents).

A bit like puppy linux frugal boot, that I tend to boot/use the most, where you boot the exact same image each and every time. But where changes can be made persistent, so its easy to update the factory fresh image that is being booted each time to the latest Debian updated version. That does entail having to store documents etc. elsewhere (in a dedicated read/write persistent folder or other partitions). Comforting to know that each time you boot it is pristine.

All running on a now somewhat dated 4 core 2GB 64 bit PC with dated nvidia card that outputs to a 32 inch TV. (Hand me down's (or should that be up's i.e. younger to older generation transfer of kit they no longer need)). But more than adequate for my needs.

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#5118 Post by None1975 »

dust hill resident wrote:I'm using a custom GTK theme which I made myself. If you or anyone here is interested in it, it's here: https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1173216/
Thanks for share it. Looks nice!
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#5119 Post by None1975 »

Window maker in Debian 8.7. It is my default and everyday window manager. Very stable and useful.
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#5120 Post by Ardouos »

Debian Stable with razor-qt

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