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web page tool

Postby Job » 2017-06-27 22:46

I am looking for a Linux web page tool. I would like to build a one page web page. Some search led me to seamonkey but that one is not in Stretch repo unless there is a repo I am not aware off.

I am looking to host the page myself so stuff like wix.com are out of the windows.

Appreciate all hints.

Added: reading more seamonkey is browser...oops
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Re: web page tool

Postby GarryRicketson » 2017-06-27 23:25

You can use any text editor to write and create a web page. No special tools needed.
Especially if it is just 1 page.
In any event , there are many good tutorials available ,
Here is one :
https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_examples.asp

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Appreciate all hints

Start out simple, a search for "webpage templates, may be productive."
I make my own templates,...it is pretty easy , and all I use is a text editor.

This is a example, and actually could be used as a template:
it is the "source code" from :

http://www.elchanate.org/

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<html><title>El Chanate</title>
<center><body><h1><a href="http://www.elchanate.org/ElChanate/chanate.html"><b>El Chanate</b></a></h1>
<p>Bienvenido</p>
<img src="images/debian-wheezy.png"></img>
<p><a href="http://www.elchanate.org/el-chanate-foro/"><B>El Chanate foro/forum</B></a> Some <a href="http://www.elchanate.org/images/images.html"><b> Images</a> </a> other things <a href="dir.html"> site directory</p>

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It took me about 5 min to write, maybe less using "nano",
After you have learned a little, and if you want to get more complex, and include CSS, java scripts,etc,... you can still do it with any good text editor. No special tools needed.
If you right click your mouse, you usually can view the source code , from any site you like, and also can copy paste it into a text editor, and use it as a template.
The tutorials at http://www.w3schools.com are the best I know of, and they go into
examples considerably more complex, and fancy then my simple page,..
It takes some time to learn , and practice, and it all can easily be done with
a good text editor, that is the best "tool" available.
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additional:
Use what ever editor you like,
Start a simple "index.html" file, that will be what you name the file.
You will save the file as index.html
Then open it with your browser, it will display as it would online.
Most basic:
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<html><body> This is how it works</body></html>

save the file as index.html,
then open with you browser, you will see what I mean.
Have fun
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Re: web page tool

Postby dasein » 2017-06-27 23:31

Ideas and exemplars available from Open Source Web Design: http://www.oswd.org/
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Re: web page tool

Postby Job » 2017-06-27 23:40

Thanks good people.
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Re: web page tool

Postby acewiza » 2017-07-01 15:25

Bluegriffon (http://bluegriffon.org/) is a nice WYSIWG html and website maintainer I started using recently after moving to Stretch a few months ago. It seems to be one of the few, if not the only decent low-no cost WYSIWYG web editors available these days.

I understand the hardcore minimalist view towards HTML coding, but characterizing a text editor as a web page tool seems a bit disingenuous to me. It's certainly a tool for text editing, html or otherwise, but that's about as far as it goes.
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Re: web page tool

Postby GarryRicketson » 2017-07-01 16:04

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/emacs
Emacs is a really nice editor, and has a lot of features that make it much more
then just a text editor.
For some body starting out new, I suggest trying various, then decide what you
prefer.
Unfortunately Bluegriffon is not in the Debian repositories, however it is available for Linux, and I have heard others recommend it,... I would have suggested one called "CofeeCup", but it is only available for windows, as far as I know,..How ever it is interesting to note even the Author of CoffeeCup, is using Griffon now,..
at least that is what it says on the front page.
I can not say I have tried Griffon, but it looks interesting, I may even give it a
try myself,.. thanks
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The very first webpage I ever did, was quite some time ago, when I saw some
articles and news letters on usenet, from
Tim Berners-Lee.

I was looking for a way to link various documents, and make reading large documents easier, on Dos, and the html , (hyper text markup language) interested me.
Trying to make a long story short,.. since all I had at the time was Dos, and the Dos editor, that is what I used.
I do not remember the exact year any more, and the website no longer exists, but any way it was done entirely with the dos editor. Later over the years many "html" editors and website software has been developed, and I have tried a few.
Coffee Cup is one, they offer a good free demo, if one pays for the software, the licensed , paid version has a few additional features. I had no problems using
the free version on some of the earliest versions of "wine",.. I have also tried a few others, but ended up being more comfortable with just a plain and simple
text editor, so ended up going back to that.
In any event, others like more elaborate and specialized software, so really
after all said and done, the best thing the OP can do is try various techniques,
and there are many, then decide what they like best.
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Re: web page tool

Postby pylkko » 2017-07-01 18:19

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/jekyll
Jekyll is a simple, blog aware, static site generator. It takes a template directory (representing the raw form of a website), runs it through Textile or Markdown and Liquid converters, and spits out a complete, static website suitable for serving with Apache or your favorite web server.

This is also the engine behind GitHub Pages(http://pages.github.com), which you can use to host your project's page or blog right here from GitHub.
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Re: web page tool

Postby stevepusser » 2017-07-01 18:56

You can download and run Seamonkey, which does have a simple web page editor, directly from Mozilla. Or we have taken their files and packaged them into a deb over at MX Linux, which adds a few things like a menu entry.

http://iso.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/main/s/seamonkey/

They are safe to install on Debian.
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Re: web page tool

Postby dasein » 2017-07-01 21:50

The core problem with a(ny) "WYSIWYG" tool is that the Web isn't a WYSIWYG medium. It's a WYSINWIS (What You See Is Not What I See) medium.

Different Web clients render pages differently, and that's a feature, not a bug. Getting visual presentation "exactly right" in any one browser usually means compromising presentation for some/many/most other browsers. Depending on circumstance, it can turn even a simple page into a maintenance nightmare.

tl;dr: So-called WYSIWYG markup generators don't generate broadly compatible Web pages. They generate browser/renderer-specific Web pages.
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Re: web page tool

Postby Bulkley » 2017-07-01 22:23

I used to use Kommander for initial design. Then I would use Bluefish to edit. I would always test the product at W3C Markup Validation Service to make sure everything was correct.

It always helps to check your Web page on several browsers and and different operating systems. Just because it looks good on your machine is no guarantee that it will also be acceptable on your neighbour's.
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Re: web page tool

Postby ticojohn » 2017-07-01 22:47

acewiza wrote:Bluegriffon (http://bluegriffon.org/) is a nice WYSIWG html and website maintainer I started using recently after moving to Stretch a few months ago. It seems to be one of the few, if not the only decent low-no cost WYSIWYG web editors available these days.

I understand the hardcore minimalist view towards HTML coding, but characterizing a text editor as a web page tool seems a bit disingenuous to me. It's certainly a tool for text editing, html or otherwise, but that's about as far as it goes.

Hmmmm. I did all of the add on coding for a Zen Cart website using Geany! PHP and HTML. A bit of hard work and huge learning curve but in the end it was a satisfying experience. Would not do it again though as it was a lot more work than originally anticipated. For a single page that was only HTML it would be a piece of cake to use a text editor. I liked using Geany because it helps with code formatting.
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Re: web page tool

Postby acewiza » 2017-07-02 13:35

ticojohn wrote:For a single page that was only HTML it would be a piece of cake to use a text editor. I liked using Geany because it helps with code formatting.

Typical users who just want to create a simple page for whatever purpose are also unlikely to be intrigued by the vagaries of code formatting.
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