dasein wrote:now you're saying that you used two different .isos. ...
I did not use the new ISO in the above report. I merely stated that it was released by debian.org in the same time span where the package set changed, which could be related to the overall problem. I used the same ISO.
GarryRicketson wrote:If the OP forgot to check the "standard utilities" ...
Sometimes we all think we did something, or didn't, the OP may think they did select the
the "standard utilities" but didn't. Why not just try it again, and be more careful ...
Since the specific mirror used is not mentioned, nobody can verify if the packages
are there or not.
1. Are you saying it is more likely that I de-selected the same item in 4 different instances without being aware of it, rather than just leaving it selected? (it is selected by default) Further, I did specifically report that I installed these systems with "Standard System Utilities" set being selected.
2. I did mention the mirror that I used in all the installs up to this point: ftp.ca.debian.org.
I don't know why there is such a tendency to assume that I am incompetent or insane, or why there is such resistance to the idea that there might actually be a changed package set. The friendly approach would be to take me for my word that at least
something isn't working as I expected. Is this forum's policy that suspicion of users is more important than friendliness?
Anyway, I am still interested in resolving this. I have just completed 3 new installs using the new ISO I just downloaded (and verified). I repeat, I just downloaded the new ISO - debian-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso - which was not used in the previous installs.
As requested, I made use of two different mirrors when installing, for the next three VMs that I created.
The first install attempt VM #6 used the same mirror as prior installs: ftp.ca.debian.org.
The second install attempt VM #7 used mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca
The third install attempt VM #8 used debian.mirror.netelligent.ca
Apart from mirror selctions the installations were conducted using the TUI as before, the selections were identical to the prior installs, and I did not unconsciously de-select the "standard system utilities" 3 times in a row.
All three installs have a total of 339 packages, and the exact same 19 packages are absent compared to the July 12th install. (see the diff in the original post)