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RAM Usage - Statistics

#1 Post by makh »

Hi

Just recalling the old days... probably around 2007:
Gnome would run at average 110MB RAM without any application, on login, if I am not wrong.
I just checked out the smallest OS, probably thats KolibriOS: https://kolibrios.org/en/
Demanding only minimalistic 8MB RAM for runtime. But I tested on virtualbox with 128MB RAM.

Interesting to note, while looking at my Openbox DE, and then ... here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments ... h=c52c0aef

My Debian 9 Openbox Values:
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free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           3.7G        258M        3.1G         31M        392M        3.2G
Swap:          1.8G          0B        1.8G

conky gives:
356MiB

top gives:
KiB Mem :  3919604 total,  3011820 free,   323916 used,   583868 buff/cache
My Arch kernel 4.13 Openbox Values:
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free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           3.7G        275M        3.0G         44M        432M        3.2G
Swap:          1.8G          0B        1.8G


conky gives:
324 MiB

top gives:
GiB Mem : 13.9/3.738
I would like to know about:
1. why too much high ram consumed now, compared to Gnome2 was perhaps.
2. Debian Openbox consumes: 200MB+, approx on login.
3. Puppy Linux demands, the current version: 1gb ram
4. Except for the web pages, the rest of my work is same, but this ram consumption is not understandable.

:idea: If I am using openbox, then the system startup to openbox, the ram consumption via conky should never exceed 100MB. I dont feel much difference comparing to xfce & cinnamon, atleast, personally. Openbox should be more sleaker and faster.

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#2 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

makh wrote:I dont feel much difference comparing to xfce & cinnamon, atleast, personally. Openbox should be more sleaker and faster
With any reasonably modern hardware there will be little perceptible difference between bare openbox and a light DE like Cinnamon or XFCE, the main advantage of OB is the transparency of operation and the fact that fewer running components make it less likely to suffer bugs.

If you have a half decent graphics card you may actually find that GNOME runs smoother and quicker than a simple openbox-based desktop because of the hardware acceleration available in the former environment.

EDIT: I like to use https://github.com/pixelb/ps_mem to break down memory usage further.
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#3 Post by None1975 »

makh wrote:If I am using openbox, then the system startup to openbox, the ram consumption via conky should never exceed 100MB. Thankyou :)
Personally, i use Ratpoison, no login manager, just startx and system, on cold boot, uses 90MB RAM (my system x64 bit). Syste fast as hell.
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#4 Post by n_hologram »

openbox-session boots to ~100mb for me.

Also, antix (any DE) boots to less-than 100mb on my laptop.
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#5 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Openbox + tint2 in OpenBSD is ~69MiB.

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#6 Post by n_hologram »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Openbox + tint2 in OpenBSD is ~69MiB:

Image

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I wish openbsd recognized my wifi device :(
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#7 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

^ Let me guess: Broadcom, perchance?

The OpenBSD developers are shocked that the Linux devs allow that code into their tree :twisted:
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#8 Post by n_hologram »

Nah, it's actually Atheros. I think I may have missed a step or a module may have been improperly loaded -- thanks for (unintentionally) reminding me about this; I think I'll check it out tonight.
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#9 Post by makh »

Hi

@Head_on_a_Stick: I dont have separate GPU, but I will check this, if I get to arrange a nice desktop for me, in coming days. :)

@ None1975, n_hologram :
  • 1. If possible, kindly share your dpkg -l, leaving the libraries.
    2. Do you use direct binaries, flatpak, or out of repo softwares, or anything in your /opt ?
This would be very interesting to see. :idea:

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#10 Post by n_hologram »

makh, just perform a minimal net install, then install xorg and openbox, and when it reboots and you log in, open an xterm and check your memory ("free -h"). Build your system up from there. Also, if you're not confident about this, try it either on a separate partition or a VM.
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#11 Post by makh »

n_hologram wrote:...just perform a minimal net install...
I have a minimal system in VM, already I have put into test:

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Top test:

Stretch/ Debian 9, is currently running a minimal Openbox at only about 89MB, with only 97 tasks.

It is currently without required packages like; office, browser, or others I may need,  etc.
Sorry ... I asked for mere comparison only... Not to disturb you, in any way.
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#12 Post by dotlj »

My RAM usage typically runs at around 2.4 GB, depending on how many Firefox profiles, LibreOffice windows, and numerous other applications running at the same time. That's without VirtualBox.
Running a few vms at the same time shows more interesting results.

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#13 Post by Wheelerof4te »

Depending on whether you game or not, 8 or 4GB of RAM will be enough. GNOME has been running at around 2 GBs for me with Chrome or Firefox opened, give or take.
Linux is less demanding about RAM than Windows, since there are not much high-performance programs avaiable for Linux. GNOME is about equal as Windows shell when RAM usage is considered.

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#14 Post by None1975 »

makh wrote:@ None1975, n_hologram :
1. If possible, kindly share your dpkg -l, leaving the libraries.
2. Do you use direct binaries, flatpak, or out of repo softwares, or anything in your /opt ?
Of course. Looks, like this forums doesn't have spoiler function, so here link to my pastebin.
By the way. Now i use i3wm. Boot time (i am on hdd)-9 sec.
leaving the libraries.
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