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Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#1 Post by Xxpippoxx »

Hi. Today I installed debian 9 on my asus gl503vm but the touchpad doesn't work. What can I do? Thanks
This is my device:

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I: Bus=0018 Vendor=04f3 Product=3090 Version=0100
N: Name="ELAN1200:00 04F3:3090 Touchpad"
P: Phys=i2c-ELAN1200:00
S: Sysfs=/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:15.0/i2c_designware.0/i2c-1/i2c-ELAN1200:00/0018:04F3:3090.0001/input/input13
U: Uniq=
H: Handlers=mouse0 event10 
B: PROP=5
B: EV=b
B: KEY=e520 10000 0 0 0 0
B: ABS=260800000000003
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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#2 Post by Segfault »

Xxpippoxx wrote:What can I do?
We do not know your experience level. I'd troubleshoot the issue. Would you? IMHO Stable is not the best choice for new desktops/laptops.

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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

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Segfault wrote:
Xxpippoxx wrote:What can I do?
We do not know your experience level. I'd troubleshoot the issue. Would you? IMHO Stable is not the best choice for new desktops/laptops.
Should I try with buster? I started ubuntu in live and I've had the same problem


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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#5 Post by debiman »

search the web for "debian ELAN1200 Touchpad" or "ubuntu ELAN1200 Touchpad" or some such.

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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#6 Post by Xxpippoxx »

debiman wrote:search the web for "debian ELAN1200 Touchpad" or "ubuntu ELAN1200 Touchpad" or some such.
do you know how con I install this?
https://github.com/mishurov/linux_elan1200_touchpad

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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#7 Post by GarryRicketson »

Good job,... I am not sure on that (how to install the one at "git hub"), I saw it as well, If it was me, I would try these first:
https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad
Debian 9 "Stretch"

In most cases, make sure you have the xserver-xorg-input-libinput package installed, and not the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package.
If the packages in the Debian repositories do not work, then the git hub, one
would be a last resort. You will need to learn how to compile it, to install,..
I am not that advanced, but maybe someone else here can and will go into
details on that.


P.S. I don't think trying to use Debian Buster (testing) would be a good
idea for you.

------------ slightly off topic----
As far as installing from Github, there is a 'make' file, so you could do some
more searches, on "how to compile and install a driver using make, and make install" Hint:(include "for Debian" , in the search key words, will narrow it down more) . Recently I just started learning a little on this, but it is not Debian or Linux, been compiling and installing some programs for Minix 3, using , make, make install, and also cmake, and bmake,... however what works for me on
Minix, did not work for me on Debian, not surprising though, Minix is not even Linux, so any way I don't have the experience, knowledge to help on that, sorry.
-------------------- edited------------
P.s. Not a solution but a work around, so you can use the laptop, If you have a
USB mouse, have you tried that ? It should work.I do not like touch pads at all,
and have found that even when the touch pad does not even work, a usb mouse does, I all ways keep one in my "case " for my laptop, when I travel.
Need to try google translate, not sure on the english word....edit :ah ha
Not case , "brief case", or "back pack"

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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#8 Post by stevepusser »

The standard instructions for compiling a driver in Debian:

1. install module-assistant

2. set up a driver build environment for the running kernel as root or with sudo:

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m-a prepare
3. Download and extract the source code in a folder with no spaces in its PATH

4. Enter the extract source folder and as standard user run:

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make
5. If that finishes successfully* (no errors), then as root or with sudo:

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make install
6. If you know the module name, you can try and load it now with insmod or modprobe. The beginner's way is to reboot, which hopefully will load the driver at boot.

* Note that there's no guarantee a driver that builds on the listed set of compatible kernels will build on other kernel versions, though they tend to be backwards-compatible.
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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#9 Post by Xxpippoxx »

stevepusser wrote:The standard instructions for compiling a driver in Debian:

1. install module-assistant

2. set up a driver build environment for the running kernel as root or with sudo:

Code: Select all

m-a prepare
3. Download and extract the source code in a folder with no spaces in its PATH

4. Enter the extract source folder and as standard user run:

Code: Select all

make
5. If that finishes successfully* (no errors), then as root or with sudo:

Code: Select all

make install
6. If you know the module name, you can try and load it now with insmod or modprobe. The beginner's way is to reboot, which hopefully will load the driver at boot.

* Note that there's no guarantee a driver that builds on the listed set of compatible kernels will build on other kernel versions, though they tend to be backwards-compatible.
it says that there is not rules for install after I run make install.
GarryRicketson wrote:Good job,... I am not sure on that (how to install the one at "git hub"), I saw it as well, If it was me, I would try these first:
https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad
Debian 9 "Stretch"

In most cases, make sure you have the xserver-xorg-input-libinput package installed, and not the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package.
If the packages in the Debian repositories do not work, then the git hub, one
would be a last resort. You will need to learn how to compile it, to install,..
I am not that advanced, but maybe someone else here can and will go into
details on that.


P.S. I don't think trying to use Debian Buster (testing) would be a good
idea for you.

------------ slightly off topic----
As far as installing from Github, there is a 'make' file, so you could do some
more searches, on "how to compile and install a driver using make, and make install" Hint:(include "for Debian" , in the search key words, will narrow it down more) . Recently I just started learning a little on this, but it is not Debian or Linux, been compiling and installing some programs for Minix 3, using , make, make install, and also cmake, and bmake,... however what works for me on
Minix, did not work for me on Debian, not surprising though, Minix is not even Linux, so any way I don't have the experience, knowledge to help on that, sorry.
-------------------- edited------------
P.s. Not a solution but a work around, so you can use the laptop, If you have a
USB mouse, have you tried that ? It should work.I do not like touch pads at all,
and have found that even when the touch pad does not even work, a usb mouse does, I all ways keep one in my "case " for my laptop, when I travel.
Need to try google translate, not sure on the english word....edit :ah ha
Not case , "brief case", or "back pack"
the package is already installed

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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#10 Post by Segfault »

Did you run make successfully?
You do not need to run make install if it fails (missing make target). You can copy the module hid-elan.ko over by hand, execute depmod and modprobe afterwards, bingo - it is installed and loaded.

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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#11 Post by Xxpippoxx »

The drivers that I found in github does not work. What can I do?

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#12 Post by Segfault »

Xxpippoxx wrote:The drivers that I found in github does not work. What can I do?
You could tell us how they do not work.

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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#13 Post by debiman »

Xxpippoxx wrote:The drivers that I found in github does not work. What can I do?
maybe disable the synaptics driver completely (i am being a little vague here, but i know this is possible) and use the generic catch-all driver that takes over in such cases.

see e.g. here:
synaptics is an Xorg input driver for touchpads. Even though touchpads can be handled by the normal evdev or mouse drivers, this driver allows more advanced features of the touchpad to become available.

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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#14 Post by Xxpippoxx »

Segfault wrote:
Xxpippoxx wrote:The drivers that I found in github does not work. What can I do?
You could tell us how they do not work.
They are not compatible and so the situation didn't change

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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#15 Post by Xxpippoxx »

debiman wrote:
Xxpippoxx wrote:The drivers that I found in github does not work. What can I do?
maybe disable the synaptics driver completely (i am being a little vague here, but i know this is possible) and use the generic catch-all driver that takes over in such cases.

see e.g. here:
synaptics is an Xorg input driver for touchpads. Even though touchpads can be handled by the normal evdev or mouse drivers, this driver allows more advanced features of the touchpad to become available.
In debian 9 there is libinput so I think that synaptics is alredy disabled

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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#16 Post by GarryRicketson »

so I think that synaptics is alredy disabled
Maybe try to confirm that, not trying to be a smart alec, but literally,
one time , my computer would not even turn on. My first thoughts,
were that something with switch,...I thought, "I think it is plugged in" (It was plugged in the last time I used it),... well to get a better look at the switch, I needed to move the computer out from the under the desk, and guess what ?
Even though I thought it was plugged in, some how it had gotten unplugged,
probably my helper , a parrot named Bryan was up to his tricks,... he hates it
when I am busy at the computer instead of playing with him,... but that is
another topic. The main point just "thinking" it is disabled, does not confirm
that it actually is completely disabled.

All though tapping is disabled, I don't know that that means synaptics
is COMPLETELY disabled.

https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad
(xserver-xorg-input-synaptics has tapping disabled by default for touchpads with one or more physical buttons; see /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/NEWS.Debian.gz. For a list of available options, see synclient -l . Not all options are appropriate; for example, Elantech touchpads don't support pressure, and many other touchpads don't support multitouch.)

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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#17 Post by debiman »

Xxpippoxx wrote:In debian 9 there is libinput so I think that synaptics is alredy disabled
are you being deliberately daft?
so try to use synaptics instead.
failing that, try to use evdev etc. as quoted earlier.

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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#18 Post by Xxpippoxx »

I've tried to install synaptics but the situation didn't change

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Re: Problem with touchpad on debian 9

#19 Post by debiman »

Xxpippoxx wrote:I've tried to install synaptics but the situation didn't change
yes, because just installing is not necessarily the cure for your problem.
also, "didn't work" and similar is never a valiod answer in itself.
please read the first link in my signature and take the time to compose better posts in the future.

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