Getting rid of Windows

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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby RU55EL » 2018-01-24 19:40

I just did a quick search at the Dell website and came up with a few notebook computers that you can buy with Ubuntu, which should work with Debian. No luck finding a Dell notebook without an operating system.
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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby Ardouos » 2018-01-24 20:19

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
technosinga wrote:It is a rare store that does it ?

I used https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/ and they have an OS checkbox that can be de-selected, I think this saves over £100 with Win10 :D

+1 a great site to get a computer without an operating system. That is where I bought my laptop last year. They even have a Linux forum.

Another great site for the UK is Entroware.

System76 if you live in the US.
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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby andre@home » 2018-01-26 21:00

Ok it is nice when you can find one without windows.
But I bought a 2nd hand one and needed Windows, extra cost 10-12 euros.
Retail versions are expensive, > 100 euros, but OEM ones are extremely cheap.
Only when it is a real principle case it is worthy to stay close to yourself, in other cases you may spend your time better for that difference...
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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby Nili » 2018-01-27 13:54

Windows 10 is just fine for me, i use to edit many quality media coverage Video/Audio or Images.
I do many BluRay rip to MKV with HandBrake, MKVtoolnix. Also i do a few lossless audio rip on PCM format.

Debian/Devuan are my primary OS. But when it comes to media outlets, Windows goes first.

Having choices is something genius. Each of systems have positive features and I want to take advantage of those opportunity.

Windows 10 is great to me as is Linux distro :)
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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby sunrat » 2018-01-28 00:15

Nili wrote:Windows 10 is great to me as is Linux distro :)

I wouldn't call it great, but it's acceptable if you kill all it's dark underbelly - https://www.winprivacy.de/english-home/
Only because you can't play GTAV on Linux. :wink:
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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby Nili » 2018-02-01 08:36

sunrat wrote:I wouldn't call it great, but it's acceptable if you kill all it's dark underbelly - https://www.winprivacy.de/english-home/
Only because you can't play GTAV on Linux. :wink:

Security points, unwanted startup-services and bloatware apps/tools are worse permanent concerns on that system.
Multimedia and Games keeps me one foot on Windows. For those few service I'm delighted :)
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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby pawRoot » 2018-02-02 00:32

I installed Windows 10 Home few days ago just to test some stuff, and i tried to install Firefox, i was told by Windows that i can't install it
because it's from unverified source or something, and to click on link to learn how to install it anyway.
The link moved me to Windows store with Win Proffesional in it for only 220 euro. :lol:

Are they for real ?
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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby debutano » 2018-02-09 02:49

There's one good reason to get rid of Windows 10, especially for those who subscribe to limited data plan. Why? Because Windows 10 auto-downloads upgrades to your machine and then uses your machine to upgrade other machines. This happens not only to machines on a wlan. It is also done through the Internet.
Users with 3G/4G limited data subscription will find their quota used up quickly. Isn't this criminal? How could MS be allowed to get away with it?
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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby RU55EL » 2018-02-09 05:32

pawRoot wrote:I installed Windows 10 Home few days ago just to test some stuff, and i tried to install Firefox, i was told by Windows that i can't install it
because it's from unverified source or something, and to click on link to learn how to install it anyway.[...]


You can change the settings in Windows to allow unverified software sources. I have Firefox installed on my one Windows 10 computer, it works perfectly. (Although, I very much prefer to use Firefox in Debian.)

debutano wrote:There's one good reason to get rid of Windows 10, especially for those who subscribe to limited data plan. Why? Because Windows 10 auto-downloads upgrades to your machine and then uses your machine to upgrade other machines. [...]


Again, this can be prevented by changing some of the settings in Windows.

That is one of the things that I really don't like about Windows. The default setting are rather geared toward Microsoft's benefit. After a fresh install of Windows, there are a couple dozen services to disable, and quite a few setting that I change in favor of my interests and security.

I only use Windows if I have to, usually due to the need for use of proprietary software. When I do, I inevitably get reminded why I love Debian so much. For example, anytime you install software, you must be careful to read the dialogs carefully otherwise you may end up installing software that you don't want or need in addition to the software you originally wanted to install. Debian, among other GNU/Linux operating systems, installs what you tell it to install and only what you tell it to install. You don't find your browser home page changed, or a new icon in your system tray.

I dual booted my computers for a while years ago, but came to the conclusion that it is a waste of disc space. I keep one of my notebook computers loaded with Windows, but all of my other computers have clean and pure installs of debian. Actually, my most used three computers, the one connected to my television, and my desktop computers at work and at home have never had Windows installed on them.

My version of getting rid of Windows. If your computer is supplied with Windows, remove the OS drive with Windows on it, set it aside so that you can use it later if needed (hey, you paid for it) and perform a clean install of Debian on a new drive. Or, better yet, buy a computer with no OS, or build one from discrete components and install Debian from the start.
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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby Bulkley » 2018-02-09 05:54

Windows 10 auto-downloads upgrades to your machine . . .


Change your Windows password. Then do what RU55EL said. That's the short fix. Personally, I think you are on the right path getting rid of Windows. There is something really satisfying about formatting a drive that has Windows on it. Bye Bill!

Since you are starting out. Try some live-CDs or live-USBs to get a feel for different Linux distros. A live version runs in memory so you can play without commitment. Where I suggest you start is with this one.
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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby debutano » 2018-02-09 08:15

I have checked through the settings. You can only block auto-downloads-uploads when you connect your computer to the Internet through a wlan, not when it is connected through a wwan using 3g/4g/5g modem.
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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby RU55EL » 2018-02-09 20:38

debutano wrote:I have checked through the settings. You can only block auto-downloads-uploads when you connect your computer to the Internet through a wlan, not when it is connected through a wwan using 3g/4g/5g modem.


So, if you don’t want Windows 10 automatically downloading updates on your home network connection, just set it as a metered connection. Windows 10 will automatically download updates when you connect your device to an unmetered network, or when you set the network it’s connected to as unmetered again. And yes, Windows will remember this setting for each individual network, so you can disconnect from that network and reconnect all you like.


Google (or DuckDuckGo) is your friend!

Of course, the best solution is not to use Windows. This is the Debian Users Forum!
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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby Danielsan » 2018-02-13 22:45

I had the problem to get rid of Ubuntu... :lol:
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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2018-02-14 06:46

debutano wrote:Isn't this criminal?

It certainly should be.

debutano wrote:How could MS be allowed to get away with it?

Monopoly.
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Re: Getting rid of Windows

Postby alan stone » 2018-02-14 09:17

debutano wrote:How could MS be allowed to get away with it?

Bit by bit and byte by byte.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Monopoly.

And through crony capitalism, decades lasting kakistocracy and - above all - this.
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