toggle "always on top"

[morgon]

Hi,

I am running testing with gnome-shell and have bound a keyboard-shortcut to this

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wmctrl -r :ACTIVE: -b add,above

the effect of which is that I can make a window alway be on top by selecting it and hitting the shortcut.

What I want now is to toggle this behaviour (i.e. when I hit the shortcut again I want the window to loose this "always on top" property.

What I know is that I could add a new shortcut with this:

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wmctrl -r :ACTIVE: -b remove,above

but I want only one.

Now the funny thing is that there is actually a "toggle"-funcionality in wmctrl like this:

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wmctrl -r :ACTIVE: -b toggle,above

however sadly it does not work (i.e. it turns on the property but never turns it off).

So how can I do this?

Is there anything to make the "toggle" in wmctrl work as I would want it to work or is there a way to determine if a window already has this property so I could make then the appropreate wmctrl-call (at the moment I understand how to set or remove this propery, but not how to query it...).

Many thanks!

[debiman]

i noticed myself that not all those hints work on all window managers.
wmctrl had its last update in 2005, so i guess we should be happy it works at all.

you can script around the limitation.

fwiw, all features can be reproduced with more low-level xorg utilities.

[morgon]

you can script around the limitation.

I case you haven't noticed:

This whole post is about how to script around it.

So if you want to add some value, please provide some examples on how to "script around it".

I easily provide all the cheap talk myself, thank you very much..

[debiman]

sorry for being so cheap in trying to help you.
next time i'll make sure to provide you with a gilded script (which language would you prefer? is bash too cheap?) & a foot massage with expensive oils.

[Thorny]

So morgon,
Do you see that when you respond with "attitude", it is not conducive to productive dialogue or help?

In addition, things often escalate from this point and there is the risk of your question being locked by a Moderator.

It's usually best to not feel offended if you can at all avoid it.

Just my opinion. I believe debiman could help you if he wanted to.

[debiman]

I believe debiman could help you if he wanted to.

i wanted, and i did.
the offending post was well researched, both online and on my machine, and not just off the top of my head.
it contains important information, but op chose to ignore that and just be offended. whatever :shrugs:

[Thorny]

..., but op chose to ignore that and just be offended. whatever :shrugs:

Yes, unfortunately, there is quite a lot of that, perhaps it is a sign of the times.

[Wheelerof4te]

I am running testing with gnome-shell

My advice would be, since you already chose GNOME, to adapt to it's workflow if you can. GNOME is not very backward-compatible, nor do it's devs want it to be.
It is a desktop cattering to the new generations, of both users and devices.
If you need heavy customization options, choose a window manager like openbox, or XFCE4 DE.