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Re: upgrading firefox

#41 Post by stevepusser »

If you want to expand your mind even more, and use another really quick browser that gets better HTML 5 compliance scores than Firefox, get the Qupzilla 2.2.5 AppImage from qupzilla.com, make it executable (another thing to learn to do), and click it to launch it. It will ask to add itself to the menu.
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Re: upgrading firefox

#42 Post by jppattison »

pawRoot wrote:Ok, let me know how it went for you :D
I'm not sure ..... I formatted the drive to get rid of anything that might be screwed up, made that same drive the / partition, it loaded, etc. but since I've been using the terminal to update, add firmware, install sudo, etc., I've had some 'glitches' that include the terminal showing what is on the particular website I happen to be on, as well as a couple of times it showed some of the commands I had used before I re-installed, which I haven't yet used! Also, even tho I installed sudo, and used

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usermod -a -G sudo <my username>
(I've done that in user and root several times), every time I try to use sudo, it says I'm not in the sudoers file!
I'm wondering if I need to re-install again :? :x Grrrrrrr :x

I guess it's another learning experience, huh? BTW, I haven't used your script yet, because like I said, I may have to re-install. Got to see if I can work out the kinks first before I worry about upgrading Firefox ;>).

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Re: upgrading firefox

#43 Post by pawRoot »

not sure how to help with your sudo problem, from what i remember i always did

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adduser USERNAME sudo
and it worked fine after reboot.

also not sure if you know but if you don't create root user during install you will be in sudoers group from beginning, you won't even need to install sudo package,if you want to do that just don't fill root password during install, only set password for your user.

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Re: upgrading firefox

#44 Post by jppattison »

stevepusser wrote:If you want to expand your mind even more, and use another really quick browser that gets better HTML 5 compliance scores than Firefox, get the Qupzilla 2.2.5 AppImage from qupzilla.com, make it executable (another thing to learn to do), and click it to launch it. It will ask to add itself to the menu.
Another learning experience? I don't know if this old guy can take all that learnin' :lol:
If I work out the kinks in this new install, I'll give that browser a spin, and yes, I don't mind learning more about making things executable. I actually like the command line, and I would like to become proficient enuff that if I lost X, I could still survive ..... but hopefully that's a long ways off!

The only thing I did different this time was to leave KDE off the list, so I'll need to have a backup browser (hated Konqueror). Is there a good, user friendly editor that would take the place of kate? Definitely not Emacs or Vi if I can get away from it! I do use nano for a very little bit of editing configuration files, so maybe that's sufficient - kate was more like a notepad to me.

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Re: upgrading firefox

#45 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

jppattison wrote:I have also tried to remove Firefox ESR
What _exactly_ did you do?

The normal, sane, sensible person would use

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sudo apt purge firefox-esr
I presume you tried something a little more imaginative?
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Re: upgrading firefox

#46 Post by None1975 »

pawRoot wrote:But then everytime he want's to launch Firefox he has to navigate to Firefox folder which is kinda lame imo. :mrgreen:
I'm so comfortable. I'm not using DE. I use Xmonad, Herbstluftwm and DWM. I made shortcut. If I want to open Firefox, simply click on keyboard shortcut mod+shift+w. Voilà! Firefox opened.
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Re: upgrading firefox

#47 Post by pawRoot »

I am using WM's too, but apparently he isn't.

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Re: upgrading firefox

#48 Post by stevepusser »

Is there a good, user friendly editor that would take the place of kate? Definitely not Emacs or Vi if I can get away from it! I do use nano for a very little bit of editing configuration files, so maybe that's sufficient - kate was more like a notepad to me.
For MX 17, we switched to Featherpad as the default text editor because it had a tiny added footprint, has a lot of features which can be switched off or on in the settings so it can look like a dead simple notepad-like editor or you can use it for complex code editing, and the developer is very responsive to requests or to bugs. It's recently been added to upstream Debian, but even that 0.7 version is falling behind with some of the newer features like auto-save and date-time hotkey entry being added since then. The Debian packager has been behind many of the latest added feature requests.

The MX 17 versions are built to be fully Stretch-compatible by yrs. truly: http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/main/f/featherpad/
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Re: upgrading firefox

#49 Post by jppattison »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
jppattison wrote:I have also tried to remove Firefox ESR
What _exactly_ did you do?

The normal, sane, sensible person would use

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sudo apt purge firefox-esr
I presume you tried something a little more imaginative?
Well, I always thought I was kinda normal, but sane? No one has ever accused me of being sane ;>).
I went into every directory that contained firefox-esr and removed the firefox-esr files .... obviously I made the wrong, wrong choice! - but now I know what is the correct command to use!
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Re: upgrading firefox

#50 Post by jppattison »

I purged firefox-esr, tried the bash script, and got this message "Failed to execute default Browser input/output Error"
After doing a lot of research on the web, I find that it's somehow connected with Google Chrome and Chromium - neither of which I have installed or ever used. I then tried the MX firefox, as suggested by Steven Pusser, but every time it opened up, I got an MX pic and ad, instead of firefox-branded page. Then I had to change it to wherever I wanted to go. I have now d/l'ed Midori as a backup browser, but I'm still working on installing the 'real' Firefox, but it will have to be from a download/extract/run.
Every time I purged the MX firefox and ran the bash script again, when I would click on the icon on the bottom of the desktop, I got the MX Firefox page - AFTER I'd purged it! I never did get the 'real' one from the bash script ....

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Re: upgrading firefox

#51 Post by jppattison »

OOPS! Double post! :oops: :oops:
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Re: upgrading firefox

#52 Post by sunrat »

Sounds like you're having lots of fun, and confusion.
jppattison wrote: I then tried the MX firefox, as suggested by Steven Pusser, but every time it opened up, I got an MX pic and ad, instead of firefox-branded page. Then I had to change it to wherever I wanted to go. I have now d/l'ed Midori as a backup browser, but I'm still working on installing the 'real' Firefox, but it will have to be from a download/extract/run.
MX Firefox is the real Firefox, probably with home page set to MX. You just need to go into preferences and set your home page to whatever you want.
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Re: upgrading firefox

#53 Post by stevepusser »

sunrat wrote:Sounds like you're having lots of fun, and confusion.
jppattison wrote: I then tried the MX firefox, as suggested by Steven Pusser, but every time it opened up, I got an MX pic and ad, instead of firefox-branded page. Then I had to change it to wherever I wanted to go. I have now d/l'ed Midori as a backup browser, but I'm still working on installing the 'real' Firefox, but it will have to be from a download/extract/run.
MX Firefox is the real Firefox, probably with home page set to MX. You just need to go into preferences and set your home page to whatever you want.
Yes, we add a custom distribution.ini file that goes to MX Linux, like many distros do for theirs (Ubuntu). That also gets added to your profile in the .mozilla folder in your home folder, which is why you can't get rid of it by simply deleting the package, but it's simple enough to change the home page.

I wouldn't call it an ad, either. It's simply the MX home page.

I also made some new Featherpad packages for various releases today. It now has the option to clean up all the trailing spaces in lines when you save a file: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show ... Featherpad
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Re: upgrading firefox

#54 Post by jppattison »

Sorry folks, I had edited that last post 2 or 3 times, so I guess that what I thought was a preview, ended up a couple of posts. late night!
The upshot of it is that I am using the MX Firefox. but as someone said, I just set my own home page. I'm leaving it at that for now. Even tho I'm retired, I have other responsibilities, so at this time I want to thank all who helped, gave advice, etc. for my problems with this setup. I only had to re-install four times! A couple of times was because of a couple of bonehead mistakes I made along the way,(and I had a lot of fun practice and learned a lot along the way as well), but it's going to be what I've got now, no more messing around - and hopefully the last time I have to re-install.
THANKS ALL!!
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Re: upgrading firefox

#55 Post by debiman »

stevepusser wrote:For MX 17, we switched to Featherpad as the default text editor because it had a tiny added footprint, has a lot of features which can be switched off or on in the settings so it can look like a dead simple notepad-like editor or you can use it for complex code editing, and the developer is very responsive to requests or to bugs. It's recently been added to upstream Debian, but even that 0.7 version is falling behind with some of the newer features like auto-save and date-time hotkey entry being added since then. The Debian packager has been behind many of the latest added feature requests.
oh, that looks very interesting! i'm looking for a geany replacement on my arch desktop...
the 0.7 release is from Jan 17 - that can't be too old?
or are you saying all these new features cropped up in the last 4 weeks?

(i'm talking abotu archlinux here. i can always build from the latest git master, but i'd prefer a release)

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#56 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

debiman wrote:i'd prefer a release
Featherpad V0.7 Arch package available here:

https://software.opensuse.org//download ... featherpad

The repository isn't quite ready yet but it shouldn't take long ;)
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debiman wrote:
stevepusser wrote:For MX 17, we switched to Featherpad as the default text editor because it had a tiny added footprint, has a lot of features which can be switched off or on in the settings so it can look like a dead simple notepad-like editor or you can use it for complex code editing, and the developer is very responsive to requests or to bugs. It's recently been added to upstream Debian, but even that 0.7 version is falling behind with some of the newer features like auto-save and date-time hotkey entry being added since then. The Debian packager has been behind many of the latest added feature requests.
oh, that looks very interesting! i'm looking for a geany replacement on my arch desktop...
the 0.7 release is from Jan 17 - that can't be too old?
or are you saying all these new features cropped up in the last 4 weeks?

(i'm talking abotu archlinux here. i can always build from the latest git master, but i'd prefer a release)
Yes, the developer has been quite active. Take a look at the closed issues on the github. He decided to bump the next release version to 0.8 due to all the additions. The tilde "~" I add to the version means it's a pre-release version. Many of the new feature requests have come from the Debian package maintainer, and the date-time entry request was relayed by me from a MX user. The cursor position in the line option on the status bar is mine. It's getting really handy for editing Debian packaging files such as the rules and control files, too. I built a new version from git yesterday for MX 17 main to use the new features.

I also managed to package the current Qupzilla 2.2.5 AppImage into a deb for MX, since that's not practical to build from source on Stretch, let alone Jessie. That makes it easy to add to our package installer. I learned I had do some extra tricks, at least for this AppImage. It installs into /opt/qupzilla...I don't think qupzilla has auto-update.
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Re: upgrading firefox

#58 Post by debiman »

^ you opened an accoount here just to tell us that?
:roll: btw, batter is this.

@HoaS: i managed to install 0.7 by editing the outdated PKGBUILD, no problems there, but thanks anyway.
stevepusser wrote:Yes, the developer has been quite active. Take a look at the closed issues on the github. He decided to bump the next release version to 0.8 due to all the additions.
ok, thanks.
i think i'll have to try the git version then and do some comparisons and generally just explore the software's capabilites.

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