You ignored one of the most helpful people here. You may have solved your original question sooner if you had followed his advice.Fernando Negro wrote:No, stevepusser, I haven't done so (yet).stevepusser wrote:...but did you even bother to try installing the gstreamer packages I recommended to get the h.264 playback working on FF 52.9?
The type of trolling comments that I see you making on these forums, and your insult to one of my information sources on this thread, make me just automatically (want to) ignore whatever you say...
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[SOLVED] Can't watch videos on site Real.Video
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Re: [SOLVED] Can't watch videos on site Real.Video
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Re: [SOLVED] Can't watch videos on site Real.Video
wow, that's rich.Fernando Negro wrote:No, stevepusser, I haven't done so (yet).stevepusser wrote:...but did you even bother to try installing the gstreamer packages I recommended to get the h.264 playback working on FF 52.9?
The type of trolling comments that I see you making on these forums, and your insult to one of my information sources on this thread, make me just automatically (want to) ignore whatever you say...
i haven't seen stevepusser trolling for years, anywhere.
i always see him contributing constructively, sometimes offering debian packages compiled specifically to user request, and much more.
calling him a troll is ... just stupid.
if i was him, i'd block your IP from downloading the packages.
please do, you might (partly) redeem yourself in our eyes.But, for the interest of everyone who uses Debian, and that might happen to have a similar problem, I will make such tests that you mention, once I can - and, I will then leave here some feedback.
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Re: [SOLVED] Can't watch videos on site Real.Video
I have expressed my strong opinions about medical woo pushers and Alex Jones, which some may take as "trolling."
However, it's a logical fallacy to ignore any advice because you don't like the source. An argument should stand or fall on its own merits, regardless of where it comes from. Attacking a source to discredit an argument is a type of ad hominem attack called "poisoning the well".
However, it's a logical fallacy to ignore any advice because you don't like the source. An argument should stand or fall on its own merits, regardless of where it comes from. Attacking a source to discredit an argument is a type of ad hominem attack called "poisoning the well".
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Re: [SOLVED] Can't watch videos on site Real.Video
Not mestevepusser wrote:I have expressed my strong opinions about medical woo pushers and Alex Jones, which some may take as "trolling."
I would like to express my support for stevepusser's posted views about "voodoo science" and I am also a firm believer in evidence-based medicine.
Here's an excellent site by a qualified medical professional that works tirelessly to expose such nonsense:
https://www.badscience.net/
Disclaimer: I am not a medical Doctor but I did train as a Medical Student for several years before leaving the profession, I was top of my year in the academic sections of the course and I hold a degree in Biomedical Science.
Anyway, sorry for the troll post!
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Re: [SOLVED] Can't watch videos on site Real.Video
The trolling started with the link the OP posted, the video is trash, as well as some of the comments in the comment part. Obviously posting a link like that to a politically oriented video would attract "troll like" comments, using a pretextFernando Negro wrote:
The type of trolling comments that I see you making on these forums, and your insult to one of my information sources on this thread, make me just automatically (want to) ignore whatever you say...
"I can't watch this video", and knowing others would follow the link to see if they could, in a nut shell it is "click bait". If one does not want trolling comments, then don't post links to trash videos, ... and then when others comment on the video, cry "troll",... Now that the problem is solved, there is no real reason to even keep the link to the trash, that is in the first post.
The OP could have just posted a link to the https://www.real.video/
And said they were having problems viewing videos on that site,
Why did they feel the need to point us to a specific video ? And then get so upset when some one points out that this:
Seems to me like the OP deliberately choose that video, and deliberately started what would be a "troll bait" topic,.... Sorry, I took the bait as well,(Despite Mike Adams being a purveyor of woo for his own enrichment, and a supporter of the vile and despicable InfoWars. Jeesh, guys.)
but that is the way I see it.
Re: [SOLVED] Can't watch videos on site Real.Video
I edited the first message, because any video could have been given as an example.
Please, let us focus on the technical issues described by the original poster and not on a video, or the thread will be locked.
Please, let us focus on the technical issues described by the original poster and not on a video, or the thread will be locked.
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I have seen posts about Stretch upgrading to the firefox-esr 60 release by September, when the 52.X ESR series reaches end-of-life. That should also be using libavcodec and would solve the h.264 HTML5 problem in the original post. Debian added the necessary rustc update in 9.5, but for 64-bit only, and still does not have the cargo build-depend at all. Since Ubuntu already has backported those all the way back to 14.04, hopefully Debian will follow suit shortly.
I'm sure we'll see a lot of complaints about user's favorite extensions being broken with Firefox Quantum, though.
I'm sure we'll see a lot of complaints about user's favorite extensions being broken with Firefox Quantum, though.
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Re: [SOLVED] Can't watch videos on site Real.Video
I didn't say anything about any lack of credibility of your technical advice. To the contrary, if I said I would "make such tests that you mention" it's implied that I have understood that, most likely, you know what you're talking about.stevepusser wrote:However, it's a logical fallacy to ignore any advice because you don't like the source. An argument should stand or fall on its own merits, regardless of where it comes from. Attacking a source to discredit an argument is a type of ad hominem attack called "poisoning the well".
Anyway, as for such tests, there's no need to do them anymore...
For some strange reason, now that I've made a fresh Debian installation some days ago and made other tests,
Either if I use my same old "~/.mozilla" directory, or if I just force Firefox to create a new one, I can now watch the videos on Real.Video with Firefox ESR.
The installation procedures I made this time (installing Xorg etc) were the same ones as last time. And, I had Debian properly updated before, when I couldn't watch these videos. And, as I said, I could watch videos on any other website before (so Firefox was working properly, in terms of video playing capabilities). And this (being able to now watch the ones at Real.Video with Firefox ESR) happens even if I use my same old "~/.mozilla" directory.
So, the only conclusion I can make is that, most likely the people at Real.Video made some sort of improvement on their website in the last days (maybe updated their "Player Version"?) that now allows people with Firefox ESR to watch their videos with no problems...
(Indeed, because I could watch videos on any other video sharing website with no problems - like YouTube, Vimeo, Dailymotion etc - I strongly suspected that the main problem - surely, in terms of "compatibility" - was with the website itself. And, this being a very recent website that only went live some weeks ago, they're probably still fixing bugs, improving things etc a lot.)
I just *love* the stability, much more bug-free nature, and modular installation options of Debian. Apart from the unfortunate adoption of "systemd" (viewtopic.php?f=20&t=129881&start=165#p671030) this distribution is *great*.
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Re: [SOLVED] Can't watch videos on site Real.Video
emariz,
The reason why I pointed to a specific video, was because, in case other people wanted to make their own tests, we could all be talking about the same "experimental sample". Since, even if all the other videos I had tried to watch on that website wouldn't play also, there was always the slight possibility that this wouldn't happen with every video. (And, in fact, on YouTube, I can see that the videos that are played use different codecs.)
The whole "Real.Video" website is, due to its nature, essentially filled with videos of a (mainly) political content. And because of this, it didn't make much sense to look for something "neutral". But, for the sake of everyone's time and patience, I will be careful in the future to choose samples that are as "neutral" as possible.
The reason why I pointed to a specific video, was because, in case other people wanted to make their own tests, we could all be talking about the same "experimental sample". Since, even if all the other videos I had tried to watch on that website wouldn't play also, there was always the slight possibility that this wouldn't happen with every video. (And, in fact, on YouTube, I can see that the videos that are played use different codecs.)
The whole "Real.Video" website is, due to its nature, essentially filled with videos of a (mainly) political content. And because of this, it didn't make much sense to look for something "neutral". But, for the sake of everyone's time and patience, I will be careful in the future to choose samples that are as "neutral" as possible.
I just *love* the stability, much more bug-free nature, and modular installation options of Debian. Apart from the unfortunate adoption of "systemd" (viewtopic.php?f=20&t=129881&start=165#p671030) this distribution is *great*.
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Re: [SOLVED] Can't watch videos on site Real.Video
Sorry for my bad English. I would suggest disregarding such things. If people are not able to deal with the problem, from video content, I think they are thick trolls.Fernando Negro wrote:The whole "Real.Video" website is, due to its nature, essentially filled with videos of a (mainly) political content. And because of this, it didn't make much sense to look for something "neutral". But, for the sake of everyone's time and patience, I will be careful in the future to choose samples that are as "neutral" as possible.
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None1975,
I think so also... And, I even disagree with the decision that was made (of removing my hyperlink).
But, in order to save everyone's time (that can be better used for other things), I will be careful to avoid creating this type of situations again.
Take care.
I think so also... And, I even disagree with the decision that was made (of removing my hyperlink).
But, in order to save everyone's time (that can be better used for other things), I will be careful to avoid creating this type of situations again.
Take care.
I just *love* the stability, much more bug-free nature, and modular installation options of Debian. Apart from the unfortunate adoption of "systemd" (viewtopic.php?f=20&t=129881&start=165#p671030) this distribution is *great*.
Re: [SOLVED] Can't watch videos on site Real.Video
saying this doesn't make much sense because you were (and still are) the only person making an issue out of it.Fernando Negro wrote:The whole "Real.Video" website is, due to its nature, essentially filled with videos of a (mainly) political content. And because of this, it didn't make much sense to look for something "neutral". But, for the sake of everyone's time and patience, I will be careful in the future to choose samples that are as "neutral" as possible.
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If that were true the original posters link would not have been moderated (removed) so there are at least 2 people making this an issue, and as you seem to want to input on the same topic that would make 3...debiman wrote:saying this doesn't make much sense because you were (and still are) the only person making an issue out of it.
And just to note I did not watch the video so my opinion is not swayed by it's content either way but OP does appear to be acting responsible and trying to draw this thread to a conclusion but unnecessary trolling comments like the above quote are trying to prevent it.
Re: [SOLVED] Can't watch videos on site Real.Video
fair enough.Dai_trying wrote:If that were true the original posters link would not have been moderated (removed) so there are at least 2 people making this an issue, and as you seem to want to input on the same topic that would make 3...debiman wrote:saying this doesn't make much sense because you were (and still are) the only person making an issue out of it.
but op started the controversy by over-reacting, all subsequent actions are a result of that.
so it would appear; but i felt the need to point out that i see this as a sort of "false generosity".OP does appear to be acting responsible and trying to draw this thread to a conclusion
you and me both!but unnecessary trolling comments like the above quote are trying to prevent it.
feel free to stop posting anytime.