Hi everyone! Hope you're all having a nice life! One of my computing hobbies is creating VMs (virtual machines) with virtualbox and/or qemu, this time I created one and installed Debian stretch using the netinst .iso, which I have before, only this time decided to use awesome window manager instead of any other DE like I usually do. My goal with this VM is to build a system with very few GUI programs, i.e. I installed Links instead of Firefox or Chromium, ranger instead of thunar or nautilus. This is the first time I do this and I'm really not sure what other packages are needed. I have used CentOS core, Slackware and Arch, built the system up from the ground but always installed some DE, for a few years now xfce has become my DE by choice, anyway, thing is I know that by installing a DE many packages needed by the system to handle certain tasks are pulled in as well, so what I'm asking is, without a DE, what packages do I need in order to handle most common task? For example, I want to install guest additions but when click on "insert guess additions iso image" nothing happens, it doesn't show up on media, run or mnt. Any help/advice is really appreciated. Thanks in advance for your answers!
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Debian netinst in a VM
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Re: Debian netinst in a VM
That depends on what you mean by "common task", I favor a bare minimal desktop (dwm) and I need very little to do what I want:Moltke wrote:without a DE, what packages do I need in order to handle most common task?
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empty@shinken:~/git/ps_mem $ su -c './ps_mem.py '
Private + Shared = RAM used Program
220.0 KiB + 47.5 KiB = 267.5 KiB startx
212.0 KiB + 82.5 KiB = 294.5 KiB atd
244.0 KiB + 137.5 KiB = 381.5 KiB xinit
252.0 KiB + 137.5 KiB = 389.5 KiB slstatus
308.0 KiB + 173.5 KiB = 481.5 KiB cron
404.0 KiB + 131.5 KiB = 535.5 KiB dbus-launch
600.0 KiB + 236.5 KiB = 836.5 KiB irqbalance
544.0 KiB + 519.5 KiB = 1.0 MiB su
712.0 KiB + 466.5 KiB = 1.2 MiB login
1.1 MiB + 178.5 KiB = 1.2 MiB mksh-static (3)
976.0 KiB + 489.5 KiB = 1.4 MiB systemd-logind
892.0 KiB + 622.5 KiB = 1.5 MiB dwm
1.0 MiB + 539.5 KiB = 1.5 MiB systemd-timesyncd
1.5 MiB + 121.5 KiB = 1.6 MiB systemd-udevd
1.1 MiB + 842.0 KiB = 1.9 MiB dbus-daemon (2)
1.9 MiB + 529.5 KiB = 2.4 MiB systemd-journald
2.3 MiB + 316.5 KiB = 2.6 MiB systemd-networkd
4.1 MiB + 696.5 KiB = 4.7 MiB systemd-resolved
5.5 MiB + 114.5 KiB = 5.6 MiB wpa_supplicant
2.9 MiB + 3.8 MiB = 6.7 MiB systemd (3)
9.0 MiB + 2.2 MiB = 11.2 MiB x-terminal-emul (2)
40.5 MiB + 8.3 MiB = 48.8 MiB Xorg
494.5 MiB + 106.9 MiB = 601.4 MiB firefox-esr (4)
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697.9 MiB
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empty@shinken:~/git/ps_mem $
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Have you tried links2?Links
It has a "graphical" mode that displays pictures and anti-aliased text, launch it with
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There is no VirtualBox package in stretch and so no guest additions, stick with QEMU/KVM. VirtualBox is full of holes anyway.I want to install guest additions
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Re: Debian netinst in a VM
and I tried reading the rest but can not make much sense of it all, seems like you are asking a lot of things,or trying to tells us some thing, but I don' get the point of it.---without a DE,what packages do I need in order to handle most common task?
And, the question:
Makes me wonder if you are serious, or joking with us. To start with it does not matter if you use a DE or a WM, that does not affect what packages you need. the part that makes me think you are just joking with us, How on earth do you expect any one to know what packages you need, ? Only you can know what you need, this is ridicules, (sorry if I sound rude, but honestly), You don't even tell us what the common tasks you wish to perform are.what packages do I need in order to handle most common task?
Even a base install, with no WM or DE, all ready includes packages and commands for the most common tasks, including a text editor, the basic linux commands,etc.
Here we go again, What are these certain tasks, I certainly do not know what certain tasks you wish to perform, but there probably is a command for many of them, you must be kidding with usmany packages needed by the system to handle certain tasks are pulled in as well,
I don't use Virtual Box, and it is obvious you have not yet tried QEMU, if you were using QEMU, you would not have the need to be fooling around with trying to install "guest additions",One of my computing hobbies is creating VMs (virtual machines) with virtualbox and/or qemu, this time I created one and installed Debian stretch using the netinst .iso, which I have before, only this time decided to ---snip----
Did you even try doing some searches on this:
I want to install guest additions but when click on "insert guess additions iso image" nothing happens
One of the many results, maybe the most relevant:
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=91390
Also, maybe you would find better answers about using Virtual Box, on their forum, that is why they have it.
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Re: Debian netinst in a VM
Hmmm...sorry about the messy post, I kind of knew it'd look like that but I was hoping that you could make sense of it. My bad, my sinceres apologies. By common tasks I mean being able to do things like installing guess additions, which involves mounting the cd rom and play its content.and I tried reading the rest but can not make much sense of it all, seems like you are asking a lot of things,or trying to tells us some thing, but I don' get the point of it.
And, the question:
what packages do I need in order to handle most common task?
Yes, you sound unneccesarily rude, cause you're being rude. I realized I couldn't express what I wanted to say. I never meant to joke. I guess I wanted to say something like: "hey guys, I just installed Stretch using the netinst .iso and awesome wm on top of it in virtualbox, besides the basic tools, is there anything else you'd recommend to install for an almost full command line environment?" or something like that. Sorry I couldn't make it before.How on earth do you expect any one to know what packages you need, ? Only you can know what you need, this is ridicules, (sorry if I sound rude, but honestly)
I have tried QEMU. Not in this case but I have created several VMs with QEMU too.I don't use Virtual Box, and it is obvious you have not yet tried QEMU, if you were using QEMU, you would not have the need to be fooling around with trying to install "guest additions
Thanks @Head_on_a_Stick for your kind answer. It helped me a lot. And I'm really sorry about the messy post, now I realize I was having a desktop oriented thinking, it that makes any sense. I mean...I guess since this is the first time I'm using a system without a desktop which means no thunar, no dialog boxes asking whether to mount, open, what to do with x device...all those things I'm used to do in xfce, although I do have awesome too but then I can use all of the xfce tools as well. Anyway, Thanks again for your answer and sorry for the inconvenience.
No, I haven't but while I was googling for "command line tools" or something like that I read about it and thought of trying it, which I will. Thanks for suggesting it.Have you tried links2?
It has a "graphical" mode that displays pictures and anti-aliased text, launch it with
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Re: Debian netinst in a VM
@Head_on_a_Stick I've Just installed and been playing around with links2, pretty good for a console web browser. Thanks again for suggesting it!
Re: Debian netinst in a VM
I figured out how to install guest additions. After some googling and reading I was able to come out with a solution. Now I'm able to change/adjust screen resolution as well as to share a folder with the host system check it out!
Now I'd like to add some transparency to the terminal, installed compton for that but it didn't work. I use awesome in my real pc and it works. I used the same configuration; added it in awesome's rc.lua file as autostart but guess I'm missing something
Now I'd like to add some transparency to the terminal, installed compton for that but it didn't work. I use awesome in my real pc and it works. I used the same configuration; added it in awesome's rc.lua file as autostart but guess I'm missing something