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cannot kill pulseaudio
cannot kill pulseaudio
Hi,
after hating it for a long time I have finally made my peace with pulseaudio.
Or so I had thought.
Now I have again a problem I don't understand:
On my laptop (running testing) pulseaudio is run under my user-account. I don't really know how exactly it get's started (afaik every client that needs pulseaudio will start it if it is not running), but it runs as a child process of the systemd-process (I assume it got re-parented) but trying to stop via systemd does not work. systemd does not seem to know anything about it.
So question 1: How can I find out how it actually get's started.
But my actual problem is that I cannot stop it. Either killing the process or running "pulseaudio -k" will simply result in a new process appearing.
And that is despite I have "autospawn = no" in both /etc/pulse/client.conf and ~/.config/pulse/client.conf
What is going on here? Question 2: How can I stop it?
Many thanks!
after hating it for a long time I have finally made my peace with pulseaudio.
Or so I had thought.
Now I have again a problem I don't understand:
On my laptop (running testing) pulseaudio is run under my user-account. I don't really know how exactly it get's started (afaik every client that needs pulseaudio will start it if it is not running), but it runs as a child process of the systemd-process (I assume it got re-parented) but trying to stop via systemd does not work. systemd does not seem to know anything about it.
So question 1: How can I find out how it actually get's started.
But my actual problem is that I cannot stop it. Either killing the process or running "pulseaudio -k" will simply result in a new process appearing.
And that is despite I have "autospawn = no" in both /etc/pulse/client.conf and ~/.config/pulse/client.conf
What is going on here? Question 2: How can I stop it?
Many thanks!
Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
There's a long thread about this, when you search the forum and find it, will you add the link to this post?
thanks.
some of these are good too
https://duckduckgo.com/html/?q=debian+kill+pulseaudio
thanks.
some of these are good too
https://duckduckgo.com/html/?q=debian+kill+pulseaudio
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
The standard solution to this problem (which you find either here or with a search engine) is adding "autospawn = no" to the configuration.
This does (for whatever reason) not work on my system.
And please note that I am asking two questions, so as for
This does (for whatever reason) not work on my system.
And please note that I am asking two questions, so as for
my answer is: I won't link it - because it would not add any value.bw123 wrote:There's a long thread about this, when you search the forum and find it, will you add the link to this post?
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
How do you know that , if you have not looked for it ? I think it answers your questions, maybe when I have more time I will look for it for you, I vaguely remember when this same question and discussion was going on, and am pretty sure they got it solved, if you don't mind waiting I will do the searches for you and post a link to it here.
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Ha,ha, this is funny, it, but it was a year ago, and there are others, but the funny thing, in this thread, it is the same OP as now, and a solution was posted, but the OP never responded, don't know if they ever tried what was suggested, it might be worth a try,
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 59#p655588
and scroll down, to the last post on that page, :
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 59#p655767
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Ha,ha, this is funny, it, but it was a year ago, and there are others, but the funny thing, in this thread, it is the same OP as now, and a solution was posted, but the OP never responded, don't know if they ever tried what was suggested, it might be worth a try,
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 59#p655588
and scroll down, to the last post on that page, :
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 59#p655767
And on the next page he gives the answers about how it starts,...by sunrat » 2017-10-06 01:19
Oops, helps to actually uncomment the above-mentioned parameter in daemon.conf:
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cat /proc/asound/card*/pcm*p/sub*/hw_params
access: MMAP_INTERLEAVED
format: S32_LE
subformat: STD
channels: 10
rate: 96000 (96000/1)
Success!
OP, I'm interested in tracking down how pulse starts too, so will do more research later.
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
No, that's not a standard solution, it is not enough. The daemon can start all kinds of ways. You would kniow that if you searched.The standard solution to this problem (which you find either here or with a search engine) is adding "autospawn = no" to the configuration...
The easiest way I found is just remove it, do you need a soundserver on your setup?
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
+100, but if the OP needs it, not a option, but there are other solutions and it did not take long to find some ,...The easiest way I found is just remove it,
And if that is not enough, there are plenty of good results:
how to kill pulseaudio on Debian
First hit :
https://wiki.debian.org/PulseAudio
And if that does not work there are still more methods, the OP just needs to keep trying until they find the one that works for them.Solving Problems
Restarting the Pulseaudio Daemon
To reread the config files ~/.config/pulse/daemon.conf and /etc/pulse/daemon.conf, do this:Code: Select all
$ pulseaudio --kill $ pulseaudio --start
Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
Believe me, it is the standard solution for quite common problem/feature when people find that killing one pulseaudio process it just starts a new one.bw123 wrote: No, that's not a standard solution, it is not enough. The daemon can start all kinds of ways. You would kniow that if you searched.
I am not talking about how it get's started here.
And this ususally works well, e.g on my PC with an (almost) identical setup.
I don't want to remove it. I use it. A lot actually. It's quite powerful software actually.bw123 wrote: The easiest way I found is just remove it, do you need a soundserver on your setup?
It's just that sometimes I want to use jack and for that I want to shut pulseaudio down occasionally.
So (as we seem to loose focus here) my questions remain:
How can I find out how pulseaudio get's started on my system?
How can I shut it down if "autospawn = no" does not do the trick?
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
You say it's a standard solution, but then say it;'s not working, and then refuse to try any searches like this?
It's the 5th hit on my search link, did you read it?
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/ ... ls/7130/2/
Garry finds another thread from a yr ago you asking the same question... Did you even read it?
My question now becomes, are you on some serious medication that you forgot to take, or just naturally an idiot?
It's the 5th hit on my search link, did you read it?
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/ ... ls/7130/2/
Garry finds another thread from a yr ago you asking the same question... Did you even read it?
My question now becomes, are you on some serious medication that you forgot to take, or just naturally an idiot?
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
I did read it, it does exactly what I tried (I tried with and wiithout the demon-binary setting) and it does not work here (it should though).
This is just the "standard" thing to try.
If that is all you have to offer (and it seems you don't know anything about the problem at hand from your own experience) then why don't you look for a nicer playgound?
This is just the "standard" thing to try.
If that is all you have to offer (and it seems you don't know anything about the problem at hand from your own experience) then why don't you look for a nicer playgound?
Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
Because this is my playground. Maybe you go somewhere else unless you want me to taunt you relentlessly like this.morgon wrote:I did read it, it does exactly what I tried (I tried with and wiithout the demon-binary setting) and it does not work here (it should though).
This is just the "standard" thing to try.
If that is all you have to offer (and it seems you don't know anything about the problem at hand from your own experience) then why don't you look for a nicer playgound?
?
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
I have no autostart. I am using i3 and I don't start it from my own config-files.peter_irich wrote:Pulseaudio can be in autostart in users settings.
It does not get started from systemd either.
Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
Do what you want.bw123 wrote: Because this is my playground.
It seems you have too much time on your hands, but unfortunately (for me) your contributions are not that helpful.
Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
Your contributions are very helpful, even after a year where a solution is offered and you totally ignore it. The idea on a forum is, it's not about you baby, it's about future readers who will find your thread. I want them to understand why your posts are silly. I want them to find solutions where you pretend to find none.morgon wrote:Do what you want.bw123 wrote: Because this is my playground.
It seems you have too much time on your hands, but unfortunately (for me) your contributions are not that helpful.
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
^ This.bw123 wrote:just naturally an idiot
I didn't know crap about acpi when I saw our OP's other thread but I managed to find the answer in a few minutes, it was very easy. Too difficult for poor old morgon though, they had to go crawling for help here
You do know you can run PA through JACK, right?halfwit wrote:sometimes I want to use jack and for that I want to shut pulseaudio down occasionally
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pu ... rough_JACK
There is no need to kill PA at all.
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
p.s. That's not what you momma said last night...morgon wrote:Do what you want.bw123 wrote: Because this is my playground.
It seems you have too much time on your hands, but unfortunately (for me) your contributions are not that helpful.
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
Rather then bickering and arguing,
Then there is some contradictions, first you say:
Show us , and I mean SHOW the exact out put, not just "it does not give any usefull info" or something like that. Show what the output of the command is . please, thankyou and no need to apologize for being a difficult person, I understand, often I am a extremely difficult person, even though I don't try to be, ... It seems to me though, that it might be better to just use Debian Stable (stretch), most of the "standard solutions" apply to that, Debian testing, well, you know, since it is still in the testing stages, it is not unusual for things to not work as expected, nor respond to the "standard solutions",.....
Keep bickering and arguing, and it will not surprise me at all if nobody wants to help any more, and another year will go by, by that time the problems that are in Debian testing now, may just magically disappear, but I am sure there will be new ones.
Did you try ?:I don't want to remove it. I use it. A lot actually. It's quite powerful software actually.
It's just that sometimes I want to use jack and for that I want to shut pulseaudio down occasionally.
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$ pulseaudio --kill
#added comment, when you are ready, and want to use it simply
$ pulseaudio --start
But then at the bottom you do ask :I am not talking about how it get's started here.
Is answered in the topic you started a year ago:How can I find out how pulseaudio get's started on my system?
From the link H_O_A_S gave:http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 15#p655774
Re: how to shutdown pulseaudio
Postby sunrat » 2017-10-06 04:55
It appears Pulseaudio is started at boot simply by a file pulseaudio.desktop in /etc/xdg/autostart/
From: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pu ... rough_JACK
as well as a shutdown script to kill PulseAudio and the Pulse Audio Device Chooser, as another example called jack_shutdown also in the home directory:Code: Select all
#!/bin/bash #Kill PulseAudio and PulseAudio Device Chooser pulseaudio --kill killall padevchooser
Several times I have seen the comment about ""standard" thing to try", and that very well may be, on standard systems, however there seem to be various good solutions, yet none seem to work on your system, since your system does not seem to be standard, maybe you should give some good details that can show us what is so different about your system, that seems to me like the key to finding out why none of the standard solutions are working,..Postby morgon » 2019-02-20 15:23
I did read it, it does exactly what I tried (I tried with and wiithout the demon-binary setting) and it does not work here (it should though).
This is just the "standard" thing to try.
We know it is Debian testing, butPostby morgon » 2019-02-20 11:41
The standard solution to this problem (which you find either here or with a search engine) is adding "autospawn = no" to the configuration.
This does (for whatever reason) not work on my system.
For example, maybe show us the .conf files so we can see what exactly you have in them, there may be some usefull info with :
And that is despite I have "autospawn = no" in both /etc/pulse/client.conf and ~/.config/pulse/client.conf
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ps aux | grep pulse
Keep bickering and arguing, and it will not surprise me at all if nobody wants to help any more, and another year will go by, by that time the problems that are in Debian testing now, may just magically disappear, but I am sure there will be new ones.
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
I am giving up on this thread now.
I will keep an eye on this, so if someone has anything to contribute please do.
I will keep an eye on this, so if someone has anything to contribute please do.
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
Well thanks for telling us, last year you didn't do that. Ok, no problem, then I will also give up on trying to sort this out, as well. All though I do think with better details on your non standard system, we could figure a way to make the standard solutions work.
Re: cannot kill pulseaudio
I know that and I even know why I don't want to do that.Head_on_a_Stick wrote: You do know you can run PA through JACK, right?
There is no need to kill PA at all.
It is a bit - let's say - non-standard to call someone an idiot here, but from a ****** ARSEHOLE like yourself what can you expect...