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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby bw123 » 2019-02-20 21:02

morgon wrote:
bw123 wrote:Because this is my playground.


Do what you want.
It seems you have too much time on your hands, but unfortunately (for me) your contributions are not that helpful.


p.s. That's not what you momma said last night...
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby GarryRicketson » 2019-02-20 22:10

Rather then bickering and arguing,
I don't want to remove it. I use it. A lot actually. It's quite powerful software actually.
It's just that sometimes I want to use jack and for that I want to shut pulseaudio down occasionally.

Did you try ?:
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$ pulseaudio --kill
#added comment, when you are ready, and want to use it simply
$ pulseaudio --start 

Then there is some contradictions, first you say:
I am not talking about how it get's started here.

But then at the bottom you do ask :
How can I find out how pulseaudio get's started on my system?

Is answered in the topic you started a year ago:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=134859&start=15#p655774

Re: how to shutdown pulseaudio

Postby sunrat » 2017-10-06 04:55
It appears Pulseaudio is started at boot simply by a file pulseaudio.desktop in /etc/xdg/autostart/


From the link H_O_A_S gave:
From: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Examples#PulseAudio_through_JACK
as well as a shutdown script to kill PulseAudio and the Pulse Audio Device Chooser, as another example called jack_shutdown also in the home directory:
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#!/bin/bash   
#Kill PulseAudio and PulseAudio Device Chooser      
pulseaudio --kill   
killall padevchooser   



Postby morgon » 2019-02-20 15:23
I did read it, it does exactly what I tried (I tried with and wiithout the demon-binary setting) and it does not work here (it should though).

This is just the "standard" thing to try.

Several times I have seen the comment about ""standard" thing to try", and that very well may be, on standard systems, however there seem to be various good solutions, yet none seem to work on your system, since your system does not seem to be standard, maybe you should give some good details that can show us what is so different about your system, that seems to me like the key to finding out why none of the standard solutions are working,..
Postby morgon » 2019-02-20 11:41
The standard solution to this problem (which you find either here or with a search engine) is adding "autospawn = no" to the configuration.

This does (for whatever reason) not work on my system.

We know it is Debian testing, but

And that is despite I have "autospawn = no" in both /etc/pulse/client.conf and ~/.config/pulse/client.conf

For example, maybe show us the .conf files so we can see what exactly you have in them, there may be some usefull info with :
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 ps aux | grep pulse

Show us , and I mean SHOW the exact out put, not just "it does not give any usefull info" or something like that. Show what the output of the command is . please, thankyou and no need to apologize for being a difficult person, I understand, often I am a extremely difficult person, even though I don't try to be, ... It seems to me though, that it might be better to just use Debian Stable (stretch), most of the "standard solutions" apply to that, Debian testing, well, you know, since it is still in the testing stages, it is not unusual for things to not work as expected, nor respond to the "standard solutions",.....
Keep bickering and arguing, and it will not surprise me at all if nobody wants to help any more, and another year will go by, by that time the problems that are in Debian testing now, may just magically disappear, but I am sure there will be new ones.
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby morgon » 2019-02-20 22:19

I am giving up on this thread now.

I will keep an eye on this, so if someone has anything to contribute please do.
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby GarryRicketson » 2019-02-20 22:23

Well thanks for telling us, last year you didn't do that. Ok, no problem, then I will also give up on trying to sort this out, as well. All though I do think with better details on your non standard system, we could figure a way to make the standard solutions work.
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby morgon » 2019-02-20 22:39

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:You do know you can run PA through JACK, right?
There is no need to kill PA at all.


I know that and I even know why I don't want to do that.

It is a bit - let's say - non-standard to call someone an idiot here, but from a ****** ARSEHOLE like yourself what can you expect...
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby bw123 » 2019-02-20 22:39

morgon wrote:I am giving up on this thread now.

I will keep an eye on this, so if someone has anything to contribute please do.


Yeah I will keep an eye out for trolling posts from you as well, thanks. You should try keeping an eye on the post you made a year ago.
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby bw123 » 2019-02-20 22:40

morgon wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:You do know you can run PA through JACK, right?
There is no need to kill PA at all.


I know that and I even know why I don't want to do that.

It is a bit - let's say - non-standard to call someone an idiot here, but from a ****** ARSEHOLE like yourself what can you expect...


Thank god someone said it, I was biting my toungue, but you are right, that is exactly what you are.
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby GarryRicketson » 2019-02-21 01:59

I know that and I even know why I don't want to do that.

Gee, that's nice, and you come here wanting others to help you, that is what we are here for, but it is not nice, that you seem to know something no one else knows, and have a reason not to do that, which is ok, but it might be of help to others that have a similar problem, to know why they shouldn't or might not want to run PA through JACK.
So in a nut shell, you want help, but don't want to share and give any feed back that might help someone else, :( NOT nice at all.
Forget about the OP now, they are useless, but I really am curious , and if any one can give a reason for not running PA through JACK, please share it, so if others have a similar problem, they know ,...
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby GarryRicketson » 2019-02-21 02:13

morgon wrote:I am giving up on this thread now.

I will keep an eye on this, so if someone has anything to contribute please do.

Oh really ?
So why ?
morgon wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:You do know you can run PA through JACK, right?
There is no need to kill PA at all.


I know that and I even know why I don't want to do that.

It is a bit - let's say - non-standard to call someone an idiot here, but from a ****** ARSEHOLE like yourself what can you expect...


Apparently nothing the OP says can be taken seriously, I mean, they say they are giving up on the thread, but keep coming back,... but NOT to contribute anything use full, just to call people names, ...... :lol:
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2019-02-21 07:07

moron wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:You do know you can run PA through JACK, right?
There is no need to kill PA at all.


I know that and I even know why I don't want to do that.

It is a bit - let's say - non-standard to call someone an idiot here, but from a ****** ARSEHOLE like yourself what can you expect...

Your insults are as pathetic as your threads :roll:

I take it your reading skills are lacking as well, or perhaps you can't figure out how to scroll a screen because my link also contained a method to kill PA automatically when JACK is started, as Garry notes.

I will get my feeding spoon out for you now, little baby:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pu ... ill_method

Please remember to mark the thread [SOLVED] for the benefit of others...
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby morgon » 2019-02-21 22:27

For the benefit of others:

What the little clown suggests does not work.

I am still waiting for the first grown up to show up in this thread...

But as I have said: I've given up already.
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2019-02-22 07:16

moron wrote:What the little clown suggests does not work.

If you want us to believe your claim then please include full details of what you actually tried along with any error messages and relevant journal content.

And if I'm a clown what does that make you if you had to get my help to figure out what acpi was doing? :lol:
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby morgon » 2019-02-23 00:09

I am sure you're going to tell your grandchildren about how once you read acpi.c all by yourself.

That should make you proud.

I do not want to deal with you any further, please don't "help" me anymore, please stay out of my threads forever.

I know you won't (and that is why I consider you a clown) but I will ignore you from now on.
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2019-02-23 08:32

moron wrote:I am sure you're going to tell your grandchildren about how once you read acpi.c all by yourself.

That should make you proud.

My point was how simple and straightforward that exercise was (even though I can't code for shit and I don't really understand C), not sure why you think it should make me proud.

Anyway, my grand-daughter is singularly unimpressed with everything I do that is forum-related with the possible exception of my mammoth defense of LGBTQ+ rights over at http://www.debianuserforums.org/ *waves to cynwulf*

moron wrote:my threads

They're not "your" threads, they are a community resource.

And yes, you can expect myself & bw123 to make regular contributions to any threads you open in the future.
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Re: cannot kill pulseaudio

Postby pylkko » 2019-02-23 10:18

my answer is: I won't link it - because it would not add any value.

Not only is this socially unacceptable, it's also factually wrong.
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