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What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
- Head_on_a_Stick
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Try this:debianos wrote:my moksha/elnightenment ones are so light and basic there is no screenshot that could be had
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# apt install scrot
scrot
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
head on stick - that was my wry humour that you missed. or is it rye as in rye bread???
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Hmm, OK, well I have a head cold at the momentdebianos wrote:that was my wry humour that you missed
Anyway the only thing we're really missing is your screenshot...
Does Enlightenment still pulsate? That always put me off.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
5MB vmlinux, 12MB initrd.xz, with capabilities support (capsh), tmux, mc (file manager/text editor), sc-im (spreadsheet), lynx (browser), dropbear (ssh), fbcat (screenshot of framebuffer), fbpdf2 (pdf viewing), calcurse (calendar). All net connected with tmux loaded at startup.
Nice for quick bootup, and for routing all http/gopher/message boards/gaming through ssh (to sdf.org).
I used EasyOS 1.0 as the base (vmlinuz/initrd) that includes squashfs functions (so can mount and switch-root boot a main X/gui desktop if needed; Could even pull down the main squashed filesystem from a server before switch-rooting into that).
Nice for a change to 'browse' around without all the advert-bloat of javascript etc.
Personally I like to run tmux with a single window per program and I've set the prefix key to backtick (press it twice to print a backtick such as in a script (executable quote)). Others like to split a window down into panes and zoom/restore those as desired. I also have next tmux window set to F12 and new tmux window set to F11, as that sits better with mc that uses F1 to F10. Backtick is certainly better than the default tmux prefix key combination of ctrl-b IMO.
I've kept the modules lean, primarily just sky2 for my hardware ethernet connection. No sound modules included so playing videos/music isn't available. Adding sound modules would 'bloat' it to around twice the size.
initrd.xz was created with extreme compression (-e switch), which for the kernel to boot also requires the --check=crc32 xz switch/parameter (otherwise on bootup it crashes). Around a 40MB non-compressed initrd.
Nice for quick bootup, and for routing all http/gopher/message boards/gaming through ssh (to sdf.org).
I used EasyOS 1.0 as the base (vmlinuz/initrd) that includes squashfs functions (so can mount and switch-root boot a main X/gui desktop if needed; Could even pull down the main squashed filesystem from a server before switch-rooting into that).
Nice for a change to 'browse' around without all the advert-bloat of javascript etc.
Personally I like to run tmux with a single window per program and I've set the prefix key to backtick (press it twice to print a backtick such as in a script (executable quote)). Others like to split a window down into panes and zoom/restore those as desired. I also have next tmux window set to F12 and new tmux window set to F11, as that sits better with mc that uses F1 to F10. Backtick is certainly better than the default tmux prefix key combination of ctrl-b IMO.
I've kept the modules lean, primarily just sky2 for my hardware ethernet connection. No sound modules included so playing videos/music isn't available. Adding sound modules would 'bloat' it to around twice the size.
initrd.xz was created with extreme compression (-e switch), which for the kernel to boot also requires the --check=crc32 xz switch/parameter (otherwise on bootup it crashes). Around a 40MB non-compressed initrd.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Devuan live ISO image:
No systemd programs are running at all, very impressive
I've made it a bit more pretty and configured the fonts correctly
No systemd programs are running at all, very impressive
I've made it a bit more pretty and configured the fonts correctly
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
HOAS, nice job....install it, you know you want to.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
It's a very nice distribution but I prefer OpenBSD for my non-systemd needs
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Are you sure libsystemd0 is not installed? Or have Devuan finally managed to get rid of it.
antiX with runit - lean and mean.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Ah, good catch.anticapitalista wrote:Are you sure libsystemd0 is not installed?
I've just installed Devuan:
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root@shinken:~# apt policy libsystemd0
libsystemd0:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 232-25+deb9u8
Version table:
232-25+deb9u8 500
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
root@shinken:~#
EDIT: the libsystemd0 package was installed with the kernel. So it is needed then.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
It looks like they're going to be able to remove it for the next version.Head_on_a_Stick wrote: EDIT: the libsystemd0 package was installed with the kernel. So it is needed then.
Seeing as we're here... here's mine. I've had it installed for a week on my 'academic' laptop [Lysultra]. It's installed on an SD card, apparently the devs hadn't heard of anyone doing this before and didn't know if it would work, but there it is.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Ah, thanks Lysander!Lysander wrote:It looks like they're going to be able to remove it for the next version
I'm up & running:
Freedom!
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
@thanatosHead_on_a_Stick wrote:I'm up & running
What a name. I approve [and I'm jealous I didn't think of it].
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Thanks. It's a bit pretentious but what the hell, eh? That bit of the installation is always the most difficult for me...Lysander wrote:What a name. I approve
Obligatory XKCD link: https://xkcd.com/910/
Anyway, sysvinit was confusing the crap out of me so I've changed to OpenRC instead:
Quick question: what is the colour of the default theme for the Devuan desktop?
The Devuan forums won't let me register without answering that question and I've installed using debootstrap and built the system up from a bare console login so I have literally no idea
EDIT: nevermind, it gave me some more chances and I got the question right eventually.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Which one!What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
I toggle between three desktops, and also have a container (secure) desktop
The browser is a form of desktop unto itself.
tmux on my third desktop
EasyOS 1.0 (heavily tweaked)
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
I upgraded to beowulf and it was indeed removed:Lysander wrote:It looks like they're going to be able to remove it for the next version
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empty@thanatos:~ $ apt policy libsystemd0
libsystemd0:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 241-1
Version table:
241-1 500
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages
empty@thanatos:~ $
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
I second this...Head_on_a_Stick wrote:@anticapitalista: perhaps rebase antiX on Devuan for the next release?
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
No need. We have never had libsystemd0 on antiX even though we are based on Debian.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:I upgraded to beowulf and it was indeed removed:Lysander wrote:It looks like they're going to be able to remove it for the next version
@anticapitalista: perhaps rebase antiX on Devuan for the next release?Code: Select all
empty@thanatos:~ $ apt policy libsystemd0 libsystemd0: Installed: (none) Candidate: 241-1 Version table: 241-1 500 500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages empty@thanatos:~ $
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?
Really?anticapitalista wrote:We have never had libsystemd0 on antiX even though we are based on Debian.
I will have to try antiX then, my curiosity is piqued...
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