[SOLVED]Making Debian more user-friendly

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[debiandonder]

Yes and if something goes wrong the whole thing goes up in flames.

[GarryRicketson]

That is why smart indians make good back ups, and keep them some where else , that is safe,and fire proof.
The problem is not that Debian is not user friendly, it actually is, but it chooses who it's friends will be,
The system administrator, or who ever installs and sets the system up to start with, should be somewhat more advanced then your average yogi, end user,....
Then the system admin can setup the desktop environment , even if they choose to use a window manager for the environment, how user friendly it is all depends on how the system administrator sets things up, they can make it very simple, give the secretaries the menu options they need for work, and nothing more, that might confuse them.
A example, and I gave it before, but every one laughed at it, any way,... the first OS my grand daughter used, and she started at 3 years old, was/is Debian, I installed it to a old laptop I had. She quickly figured out how to click the Icons, or menu item, start a game she liked, or open her "tux paint" program,etc., if a 3 year old finds the environment user friendly, I do not understand why so many adults consider it not user friendly,... The problem is not Debian, the problem is these clowns that try to install and configure a user friendly environment, and they do not yet have the technical know how to even properly install the system to start with.
Yes, my grand daughter would never have been able to do that either, installing and setting up a user friendly system, is not something your average 3 year old, nor yogi end user can do.
Making Debian more user friendly, is something the system administrator can do, if they really have the ability and qualifications to be administrating a OS,installing it, etc.
Side note: Now my granddaughter is older, 6 or 7, and in school, but the point is it really was not that hard to set up a simple environment for her, one that was/is very user-friendly, as she learns and gets more experience, she can easily add new items to her menu, etc,... it still is a very user friendly laptop.

[debiandonder]

Yes, my Debian 9 system froze yesterday and I had to pull the plug on it. When I restarted I only got a file system not recognized or something like that and the recovery mode did not work either. I was in the evening and all the computer shops was closed, no were to run to.

I looked around the house and saw CD lying on the carpet in a spare room in the dust. I tried it and it had Zorin OS 9 on it from 2014. I installed it and made the massive update and now my system works again.

Granted I think I have some hardware problem causing all the freezes, but Ubuntu is indented for idiots like me. It's idiot proof, right from the installation in the beginning.

Last night I tried to install Debian 9 with the net installer and made some wrong choice and ended up with no desktop environment, went back to Ubuntu, no worries.

[stevepusser]

That Apache is a long ways from home if he's in a tipi. Maybe just visiting?

[debiandonder]

That Apache is a long ways from home if he's in a tipi. Maybe just visiting?

His definitely of the reservation!

[Hallvor]

Granted I think I have some hardware problem causing all the freezes, but Ubuntu is indented for idiots like me. It's idiot proof, right from the installation in the beginning.

Whatever floats your boat. I started out with Ubuntu myself, but grew tired of bugs. They weren't "user friendly" at all.

[sgage]

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Granted I think I have some hardware problem causing all the freezes, but Ubuntu is indented for idiots like me. It's idiot proof, right from the installation in the beginning.
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Whatever floats your boat. I started out with Ubuntu myself, but grew tired of bugs. They weren't "user friendly" at all. [/quote]

Yes, this. Buggy unstable systems are not 'user friendly'. I started with Debian back in the late 90's. When Ubuntu came along, I thought "cool, Debian with shinier newer software". But it was always kind of not quite there, always a work in progress, always just a bit sloppy. The whole GnomeShell then Unity thing caused me to jump ship, and I came back to straight up Debian. Buggy, unstable, sloppy software is not 'user friendly', no matter how shiny and new the programs are, or how many options they take away from you, or the happy GUI settings programs. BUT...

Whatever floats your boat.

[debiandonder]

My boat lost a engine, namely my graphics card broke and I now have to rely in the AMD APU only, with very basic graphics.

I don't care for the pretty KDE look anymore, it's pretty but to slow on my system.

I installed Lubuntu 18.04. It was so easy, but I resisted the urge to suck my thumb.