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Problem with Buster + Nvidia

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Thomas123
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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#21 Post by Thomas123 »

This is strange! ... Why is the package in sid then?

NVidia itself also still offers it for download as the current version.
But even if NVidia doesn't develop it any further, why would Debian-stable exclude the latest version of it?

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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#22 Post by Wheelerof4te »

Debian Stable is supported for 3 years by a security team. That package is non-free, meaning it can't be modified by Debian developers to tackle security problems.
So they removed it, since they can't support is for 3 years because NVIDIA dropped support. Sid is not as strict with security as Stable, but I can guess developers will also remove it from Sid soon.

Ask NVIDIA why they dropped support for those cards. Debian has nothing to do with that toxic company, and it's not obliged to package insecure software just because.

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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#23 Post by Thomas123 »

Ok, I understand! Thank you!

Just to be sure, that we are not all misled and the debian package-site is just not up to date yet ... could you please run the "apt policy"-command for me? ... I have no Debian running yet.

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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#24 Post by Wheelerof4te »

Sure, I'll be a good boy today, it's a special day afterall:

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nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:
EDIT: H_on_a_S has Sid repo enabled, I don't. That's why she can install it, and I can't.
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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#25 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

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E485:~$ apt policy nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver
nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 304.137-7
  Version table:
     304.137-7 100
        100 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian sid/non-free amd64 Packages
E485:~$
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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#26 Post by Thomas123 »

Thank you guys!

To anyone reading this thread: Never ever buy a nVidia card!

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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#27 Post by piperdan »

I don't know if it will help or not, but I always download and install the iso from the "Unofficial non-free images including firmware packages" site:
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unof ... -firmware/

It always saves me a few bumps in the road when dealing with my wifi card, etc.

p.s.
I have an nvidia card

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danny@debian:~$ inxi -F
System:    Host: debian Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Gnome 3.30.2 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Latitude E6430 v: 01 serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: Dell model: N/A serial: <root required> BIOS: Dell v: A12 date: 05/20/2013 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 56.8 Wh condition: 56.8/62.2 Wh (91%) 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-3340M bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           Speed: 1196 MHz min/max: 1200/3400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1196 2: 1196 3: 1196 4: 1196 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GF108GLM [NVS 5200M] driver: nouveau v: kernel 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: nouveau resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: NVC1 v: 4.3 Mesa 18.3.6 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GF108 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-5-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network driver: e1000e 
           IF: eno1 state: down mac: f0:1f:af:1b:c2:dd 
           Device-2: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] driver: iwlwifi 
           IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: 6c:88:14:7d:ae:fc 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 232.89 GiB used: 6.27 GiB (2.7%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: SK Hynix model: HFS250G32TND-N1A2A size: 232.89 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 212.53 GiB used: 6.27 GiB (2.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 15.95 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 66.0 C mobo: 47.0 C sodimm: 42.0 C gpu: nouveau temp: 57 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 
Info:      Processes: 186 Uptime: 46m Memory: 15.62 GiB used: 1.34 GiB (8.6%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.32 
danny@debian:~$ 
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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#28 Post by Wheelerof4te »

piperdan wrote:I don't know if it will help or not, but I always download and install the iso from the "Unofficial non-free images including firmware packages" site:
It won't, because NVIDIA's driver is not included in that iso. However, many firmware files are, so it is still recommended iso for most laptops.

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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#29 Post by Thomas123 »

Thank you guys anyway!

Last thing I can think of: I install a fresh Debian and then download the .run file directly from NVIDIA and execute it. Maybe this will work.

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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#30 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Thomas123 wrote:I install a fresh Debian and then download the .run file directly from NVIDIA and execute it. Maybe this will work.
You will have to do that again every time the kernel is updated though. The Debian NVIDIA packages should do this automatically.
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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#31 Post by Thomas123 »

Ok, good to know! Thank you!

The other open option though, is the stretch-backports package, you mentioned. I think, I try this first.

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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#32 Post by sena »

Thomas123 wrote:Ok, good to know! Thank you!

The other open option though, is the stretch-backports package, you mentioned. I think, I try this first.
Hi! I have mainboard ASRock N68-GS4 with the built-in NVIDIA GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a GPU. Stretch-backports obviously does not work. nouveau is working well with the simple graphics, but hangs my host when playing videos using vlc.

The system is upgraded to Buster, so downgrade is not possible in easy way (well it would be better if some warning would be issued before the upgrade). The simplest for me would be to quickly buy working graphic card. I do not need anything special, but something working with the existing free software in Debian: 3d games, video players (vlc, mpv) etc. Can somebody recommend something working for me?

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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#33 Post by Thomas123 »

If your only problem is with playing videos using vlc ... I would simply choose another player. Smplayer in my view has better features than vlc anyways.

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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#34 Post by None1975 »

Thomas123 wrote:If your only problem is with playing videos using vlc ... I would simply choose another player. Smplayer in my view has better features than vlc anyways.
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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#35 Post by stevepusser »

If you choose SMPlayer, it can use either a rather aging mplayer, or mpv as the player backend. I recommend mpv, myself.
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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#36 Post by sena »

Thomas123 wrote:If your only problem is with playing videos using vlc ... I would simply choose another player. Smplayer in my view has better features than vlc anyways.
1. I have another problem with smplayer and online tv m3u8u playlists. VLC just worked.
2. Unfortunately not. After some time I figured out that nouveau hangs my PC randomly.

Just bought the cheapest, but new nvidia card, disabled the onboard and everything works again but with the nouveau driver! Finally free from proprietary crap!

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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#37 Post by sena »

Too late for me, but if somebody need 304xx for buster, you can try this:

https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/ ... a-guide/4/

To download patched driver installer:

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wget https://nvidia.if-not-true-then-false.com/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.137-patched-kernel-4.14.run
Please tell if you succeed!

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Re: Problem with Buster + Nvidia

#38 Post by Thomas123 »

Thank you sena!

I would like to try this, because I still have the problem and refrained from using Debian because of it. ... But this seems unfortunately way over my abilities.

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