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Does gdebi ( the gdebi-gtk GUI) work for anybody on Buster?

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Re: Does gdebi ( the gdebi-gtk GUI) work for anybody on Bust

#21 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Bug report is in:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=931986

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Re: Does gdebi ( the gdebi-gtk GUI) work for anybody on Bust

#22 Post by Wheelerof4te »

It failed for me in Cinnamon (couldn't bare that desktop so I switched to GNOME again) when I tried installing a .deb file.
I figured it may be because it wasn't configured correctly and just installed that .deb with apt. But I guess it was a bug.

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#23 Post by stevepusser »

It turns out that in MX, our gksu calls a custom "mx-pkexec" to elevate privileges, so it seems we don't hopefully lose any security by using that workaround. I sent up a modified gdebi build to fix the problem.
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Re: Does gdebi ( the gdebi-gtk GUI) work for anybody on Bust

#24 Post by miks »

I use KDE and have found that gdebi will not work when invoked from Dolphin. Because of the problems caused by not being able to use Dolphin as root anymore, I installed pcmanfm-qt for occasions when I need to use a file manager as root and gdebi works normally from a root pcmanfm-qt.
stevepusser wrote:-I actually use a KDE service menu in Dolphin to install debs myself with apt,


Is there a way to add this service menu for Dolphin in KDE Buster?

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miks wrote:I use KDE and have found that gdebi will not work when invoked from Dolphin. Because of the problems caused by not being able to use Dolphin as root anymore, I installed pcmanfm-qt for occasions when I need to use a file manager as root and gdebi works normally from a root pcmanfm-qt.
stevepusser wrote:-I actually use a KDE service menu in Dolphin to install debs myself with apt,


Is there a way to add this service menu for Dolphin in KDE Buster?
Yes. Steve made a package for it but I was unable to find it with a quick search. I'm sure he will be along to point you in the right direction.
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#26 Post by stevepusser »

The mx17 version works fine in Buster, but I will build a mx19 version so it shows up in the repo once we release the public MX 19 beta. It does require sudo be enabled to work, though.

http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/main/k/k ... stalldebs/

I added an option to check a file's checksum, since the two things can be related. You can also install multiple debs in one go.

As for not being able to get a root Dolphin, this should allow you to open one, among several other root actions, since it uses pkexec to boost the privileges: http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/main/r/r ... rvicemenu/
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Re: Does gdebi ( the gdebi-gtk GUI) work for anybody on Bust

#27 Post by NFT5 »

stevepusser wrote:As for not being able to get a root Dolphin, this should allow you to open one, among several other root actions, since it uses pkexec to boost the privileges: http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/main/r/r ... rvicemenu/
In KDE Buster this won't install, citing dependency issues.

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stevepusser wrote:The mx17 version works fine in Buster, but I will build a mx19 version so it shows up in the repo once we release the public MX 19 beta. It does require sudo be enabled to work, though.

http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/main/k/k ... stalldebs/
Thanks Stevo, this has installed, but when I tried using it to install the service menu, it came back with:

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[sudo] password for mike: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting 'kde-servicemenu-rootactions' instead of '/home/mike/Desktop/kde-servicemenu-rootactions_2.7.3+p8+git20160617.0159-1mx17+1_all.deb'
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 kde-servicemenu-rootactions : Depends: kde-baseapps-bin but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

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Presumably the same problem mentioned by NFT5.

Strangely, there is no kde-baseapps-bin package for Buster or Bullseye, though it is available in Sid.

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#29 Post by L_V »

miks wrote:Strangely, there is no kde-baseapps-bin package for Buster or Bullseye, though it is available in Sid.
Only debport for arm64
https://packages.debian.org/sid/kde-baseapps-bin

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#30 Post by stevepusser »

It seems they need some reworking of the dependencies, so let me see what I can do.
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#31 Post by L_V »

The problem is qt4 dependency, for now.

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#32 Post by stevepusser »

OK, these seem to be working now: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vKhVl ... lJaZJx2_bd

Except opening a root Dolphin results in a window with no icons at all... :( But at least you can use the other root actions to work around the need to have a root Dolphin while we try to figure that out.
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#33 Post by stevepusser »

And apparently rootactions needs a patch for the case when you're running Dolphin outside of KDE (like me most of the time), so here's another update for that one

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1O7-fL ... xcKucoWiku
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Redacted this post as it's irrelevant after my next post.
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#35 Post by sunrat »

stevepusser wrote:And apparently rootactions needs a patch for the case when you're running Dolphin outside of KDE (like me most of the time), so here's another update for that one

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1O7-fL ... xcKucoWiku
I just installed this in a fresh Buster netinstall with kde-plasma-desktop added. Seems to work fine and opening Dolphin as root shows icons.
Bravo Stevo! 8)
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Re: Does gdebi ( the gdebi-gtk GUI) work for anybody on Bust

#36 Post by miks »

stevepusser wrote:And apparently rootactions needs a patch for the case when you're running Dolphin outside of KDE (like me most of the time), so here's another update for that one

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1O7-fL ... xcKucoWiku
I can confirm this works on the Buster KDE I have been using since January. Just wondering why there isn't an official way to do this in KDE Buster. Is that by design or is it a bug? I have tried reading up about the demise of kdesu and use of polkit, pkexec etc but it just hurts my brain.

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miks wrote: Just wondering why there isn't an official way to do this in KDE Buster. Is that by design or is it a bug? I have tried reading up about the demise of kdesu and use of polkit, pkexec etc but it just hurts my brain.
It's one of the great mysteries of the modern world. We will all become enlightened beings and world peace will ensue once it's solved. :wink:
I think Steve managed to implement it without too much trouble. I presume the KDE devs think it a Very Bad Idea® to run Dolphin as root or they could have done it too.
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#38 Post by stevepusser »

Presumably, they want all packages to be installed from the repos instead of local debs, too, so may not hurry to fix gdebi or add an "installdeb" service menu. Actually, dolphin_oracle at MX came up with the deb installer script for the KDE and Thunar service menus, and I packaged the KDE one. Assuming other FMs like Nautilus, Caja, Nemo, etc. use similar xml code for their service menus, it would probably be pretty simple to adapt the Thunar version for them.
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L_V wrote:The problem is qt4 dependency, for now.
I think that's fixed for the MX 19 ones now.
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#40 Post by NFT5 »

Thanks for your efforts on this Steve. I now have both the ability to run the root actions from Dolphin as well as actually open up a Dolphin window, as root. For this I'm very happy.

The root Dolphin window doesn't follow the theme etc. of my desktop but it does have simplistic icons and the difference will probably serve to remind me that I'm root and to be careful.

I can install debs with QApt and mange my files with Dolphin, so I'm a happy chappy. :D
sunrat wrote:I presume the KDE devs think it a Very Bad Idea® to run Dolphin as root or they could have done it too.
stevepusser wrote:Assuming other FMs like Nautilus, Caja, Nemo, etc. use similar xml code for their service menus, it would probably be pretty simple to adapt the Thunar version for them.
Gnome and MATE have always had the ability to open a root file manager window (Cinnamon too? Not sure) and Caja has a package for custom menu actions. It's kind of curious that the KDE devs are heading in such a different direction when the success of Mint, Ubuntu, MX and others indicates that users want a GUI solution. :?

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