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Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

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Re: Gnu/Linux desktops-windows managers RAM ShoWDowN

#21 Post by sickpig »

openbox with few bulky apps slotted to autostart like syncthing and autokey.

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Device: laptop System: Dell product: Latitude 5490
UEFI: Dell v: 1.4.2
disk - model: INTEL_SSDSCKKF25 (256 Gb ssd)

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              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7.7G        219M        7.2G         37M        285M        7.2G
Swap:            0B          0B          0B

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 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program

 80.0 KiB +  35.0 KiB = 115.0 KiB	xf86-video-intel-backlight-helper
208.0 KiB +  38.5 KiB = 246.5 KiB	startx
240.0 KiB + 111.0 KiB = 351.0 KiB	xinit
336.0 KiB + 126.0 KiB = 462.0 KiB	cron
584.0 KiB +  25.0 KiB = 609.0 KiB	ssh-agent
484.0 KiB + 126.5 KiB = 610.5 KiB	irqbalance
668.0 KiB + 261.0 KiB = 929.0 KiB	xfconfd
636.0 KiB + 411.0 KiB =   1.0 MiB	systemd-timesyncd
736.0 KiB + 316.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB	gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
772.0 KiB + 461.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	systemd-logind
  1.0 MiB + 305.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB	gvfsd-fuse
  1.5 MiB + 101.0 KiB =   1.6 MiB	rsyslogd
  1.2 MiB + 437.0 KiB =   1.6 MiB	gvfsd
  1.1 MiB + 726.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB	(sd-pam)
936.0 KiB + 938.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB	su
  1.3 MiB + 632.0 KiB =   1.9 MiB	dbus-daemon (2)
  1.7 MiB + 393.0 KiB =   2.1 MiB	systemd-journald
  2.1 MiB + 121.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB	systemd-udevd
  1.4 MiB + 944.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB	lxpolkit
  2.1 MiB + 338.0 KiB =   2.4 MiB	dhclient
  1.9 MiB + 553.0 KiB =   2.4 MiB	udisksd
880.0 KiB +   1.7 MiB =   2.6 MiB	login (2)
  2.4 MiB + 429.0 KiB =   2.9 MiB	polkitd
  1.9 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   2.9 MiB	gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
  2.4 MiB + 579.0 KiB =   3.0 MiB	conky
  1.7 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   3.1 MiB	panel-19-systra
  1.9 MiB +   1.6 MiB =   3.4 MiB	panel-5-xfce4-o
  2.4 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   3.6 MiB	bash (2)
  1.7 MiB +   2.5 MiB =   4.2 MiB	systemd (2)
  4.1 MiB + 465.0 KiB =   4.6 MiB	wpa_supplicant
  3.4 MiB +   2.0 MiB =   5.4 MiB	orage
  3.5 MiB +   2.0 MiB =   5.5 MiB	clipit
  3.3 MiB +   2.3 MiB =   5.7 MiB	panel-38-whiske
  5.6 MiB + 360.0 KiB =   6.0 MiB	xterm
  4.7 MiB +   1.8 MiB =   6.5 MiB	openbox
  7.0 MiB + 408.5 KiB =   7.4 MiB	pulseaudio
  5.3 MiB +   2.8 MiB =   8.1 MiB	xfce4-panel
  8.2 MiB + 902.0 KiB =   9.1 MiB	NetworkManager
 17.7 MiB +   4.6 MiB =  22.3 MiB	pcmanfm
 22.6 MiB +   7.7 MiB =  30.3 MiB	syncthing (2)
 27.1 MiB +   4.2 MiB =  31.3 MiB	Xorg
 33.8 MiB +   4.3 MiB =  38.1 MiB	autokey-gtk
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#22 Post by wizard10000 »

Just for grins here are specs on my home server. Server runs plex and calibre, has openbox installed but sits at a login prompt :)

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wizard@wizard-server:~$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:          7.7Gi       561Mi       294Mi        88Mi       6.9Gi       6.8Gi
Swap:         4.0Gi          0B       4.0Gi

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wizard@wizard-server:~$ inxi -F
System:
  Host: wizard-server Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 
  Desktop: Openbox 3.6.1 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Precision M4500 v: 0001 
  serial: <root required> 
  Mobo: Dell model: N/A serial: <root required> BIOS: Dell v: A15 
  date: 12/05/2013 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 68.2 Wh condition: 68.2/86.6 Wh (79%) 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7 Q 740 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
  Speed: 956 MHz min/max: 933/1734 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 983 2: 1381 
  3: 1099 4: 1153 5: 972 6: 1004 7: 1387 8: 1073 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GT215GLM [Quadro FX 1800M] driver: nouveau v: kernel 
  Display: tty server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
  resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio 
  driver: snd_hda_intel 
  Device-2: NVIDIA High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-5-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network driver: e1000e 
  IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 5c:26:0a:05:70:4a 
  Device-2: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 driver: iwlwifi 
  IF: wlp3s0 state: down mac: ea:73:9c:47:f4:55 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.59 TiB used: 788.94 GiB (48.4%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD2500LPLX-75ZNTT0 
  size: 232.89 GiB 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Seagate model: ST9500420AS 
  size: 465.76 GiB 
  ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: External USB 3.0 
  size: 931.51 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 12.03 GiB used: 5.75 GiB (47.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
  ID-2: /home size: 212.20 GiB used: 19.54 GiB (9.2%) fs: ext4 
  dev: /dev/sda3 
  ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: N/A sodimm: 47.0 C gpu: nouveau 
  temp: 53 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2631 
Info:
  Processes: 194 Uptime: 22h 55m Memory: 7.73 GiB used: 1.89 GiB (24.5%) 
  Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.34 
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#23 Post by GarryRicketson »

Before, I posted Debian on a VM (Qemu), here it is on bare metal, a new (but used) PC:

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garry@debian:~/Neofetch/neofetch-master$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          garry@debian 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ------------ 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: HP Compaq 8200 Elite CMT PC 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 6 mins 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 966 (dpkg) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1440x900 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: Xfce 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: Xfwm4 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: Default 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: Xfce [GTK2] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: Tango [GTK2] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             Terminal Font: Monospace 18 
              `"""            CPU: Intel i5-2400 (4) @ 3.400GHz 
                              GPU: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family 
                              Memory: 302MiB / 1816MiB 

                                                      

garry@debian:~/Neofetch/neofetch-master$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:          1.8Gi       236Mi       276Mi        52Mi       1.3Gi       1.3Gi
Swap:         1.9Gi          0B       1.9Gi
garry@debian:~/Neofetch/neofetch-master$ inxi -F
System:
  Host: debian Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4 
  Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq 8200 Elite CMT PC 
  v: N/A serial: <root required> 
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 1494 serial: <root required> 
  BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: J01 v02.01 date: 04/06/2011 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-2400 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
  Speed: 1640 MHz min/max: 1600/3400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1602 2: 1596 
  3: 1597 4: 1597 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics 
  driver: i915 v: kernel 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
  resolution: 1440x900~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Desktop v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio 
  driver: snd_hda_intel 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-5-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network driver: e1000e 
  IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 2c:27:d7:1a:ad:de 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.36 TiB used: 3.31 GiB (0.2%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM010-2EP102 size: 931.51 GiB 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000AZLX-22JKKA0 
  size: 465.76 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 264.84 GiB used: 2.76 GiB (1.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb7 
  ID-2: /boot size: 9.17 GiB used: 114.5 MiB (1.2%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/sdb1 
  ID-3: swap-1 size: 1.89 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 32.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 152 Uptime: 6m Memory: 1.77 GiB used: 316.1 MiB (17.4%) 
  Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.32 
garry@debian:~/Neofetch/neofetch-master$ 

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#24 Post by Wheelerof4te »

That's a good lappy, Garry.
If you get the chance, add another 4 GB of RAM and it will be a beast.

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#25 Post by PhilGil »

Since everyone else is posting their low RAM usage desktops, someone has to post a full-fat GNOME install for comparison.

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phil@phil-optiplex-5050:~$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          phil@phil-optiplex-5050 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       ----------------------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Host: OptiPlex 5050 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Uptime: 6 mins 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Packages: 2715 (dpkg), 8 (flatpak) 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Shell: bash 5.0.3 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Resolution: 1920x1080 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         DE: GNOME 3.30.2 
 `$$b      "-.__              WM: GNOME Shell 
  `Y$$                        WM Theme: Adwaita 
   `Y$$.                      Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
     `$$b.                    Icons: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
       `Y$$b.                 Terminal: gnome-terminal 
          `"Y$b._             CPU: Intel i7-7700 (8) @ 4.200GHz 
              `"""            GPU: Intel HD Graphics 630 
                              Memory: 1179MiB / 15906MiB 

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phil@phil-optiplex-5050:~$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           15Gi       1.0Gi       7.2Gi       145Mi       7.4Gi        14Gi
Swap:         7.5Gi          0B       7.5Gi
Pretty sad, but I still like the GNOME desktop.

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#26 Post by sunrat »

PhilGil wrote:Since everyone else is posting their low RAM usage desktops, someone has to post a full-fat GNOME install for comparison. ...

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phil@phil-optiplex-5050:~$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           15Gi       1.0Gi       7.2Gi       145Mi       7.4Gi        14Gi
Swap:         7.5Gi          0B       7.5Gi
Pretty sad, but I still like the GNOME desktop.
When you have 16GB RAM, using ~8% of it at bootup is certainly no reason to consider changing DE. :wink:
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#27 Post by PhilGil »

sunrat wrote:
PhilGil wrote:Since everyone else is posting their low RAM usage desktops, someone has to post a full-fat GNOME install for comparison. ...

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phil@phil-optiplex-5050:~$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           15Gi       1.0Gi       7.2Gi       145Mi       7.4Gi        14Gi
Swap:         7.5Gi          0B       7.5Gi
Pretty sad, but I still like the GNOME desktop.
When you have 16GB RAM, using ~8% of it at bootup is certainly no reason to consider changing DE. :wink:
New (to me) machine. Having an overabundance of RAM isn't something I'm used to. I've also been using Linux long enough that I remember when a full XFCE install (without tweaks) came in at <200mb.

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#28 Post by Nili »

With Openbox i used to have 35MB IDLE. While on Fluxbox i am minus 10MB

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#! nili ~ $ ps_mem
Password: 
 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program

200.0 KiB + 122.5 KiB = 322.5 KiB	startx
196.0 KiB + 177.0 KiB = 373.0 KiB	init
372.0 KiB + 109.5 KiB = 481.5 KiB	hddtemp
172.0 KiB + 332.5 KiB = 504.5 KiB	xinit
380.0 KiB + 529.5 KiB = 909.5 KiB	su
508.0 KiB + 450.5 KiB = 958.5 KiB	login
  1.3 MiB + 234.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	udevd
  1.4 MiB + 286.0 KiB =   1.7 MiB	bash
  3.1 MiB +   1.3 MiB =   4.4 MiB	fluxbox
  3.3 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   4.7 MiB	rxvt-unicode
  8.0 MiB + 538.0 KiB =   8.5 MiB	Xorg
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                         24.3 MiB
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#29 Post by Hallvor »

My main rig with many enabled services:

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hallvor@debian-thinkpad:~$ free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7669         691        6261         124         716        6617
Swap:          7879           0        7879
Running Konsole, Dolphin and Konqueror (on FDN):

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hallvor@debian-thinkpad:~$ free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7669         853        5773         240        1042        6336
Swap:          7879           0        7879
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#30 Post by Deb-fan »

Nice stats people, thanks for sharing. :)

Dang Nili, you aren't messing around. Are these modern gnu/Linux operating systems or old stable, dated one's? Am more than happy with sub-100mbs/ram in 2019. Openbox does everything I could need. Don't need icons, panel launchers etc. Can launch whichever apps with keyboard shortcuts, run dialogue, terminal or if absolutely want to touch a mouse/pad, openbox's right-click menu. Been considering removing it. Never use it anymore but it uses so little in resources may as well leave it alone.

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#31 Post by Nili »

Hi deb-fan, It's been a while that haven't done editing on WM. Yesterday i took it seriously tweaking Fluxbox.
After used for a while Opnebox I'm already on Fluxbox boat.

On Openbox i used to have many configs like obmenu, obconf, compton, conky, xdotool, hddtemp, lm-sensors and many other snippets to make Opnebox looks fine. I'm happy for Openbox, i removed from my .xinitrc but not the configs or installs, in case i want use back enough to change the wm name.

So i decided to lighten even more by using Fluxbox.
Openbox runs up to 20MB while Fluxbox runs up to 7MB.

Fluxbox single alone package do almost every thing Openbox do, OK not all but almost do, Fluxbox have his toolbar, keys+mouse configs, apps manager, init, menu etc. While Openbox i must install a few packages to make it completed.

vsido/fluxbox have inspired me a lot. user=PackRat is an veteran on WM configs in particular fluxbox. Got many ideas or used a few configs for my tweaks.

I'm testing those Window Managers on very very old hardware from 2007, Because I like to keep old stuff working as long as i can.

Thank you for your consideration. Well, the good old time of #! :) those where the days, i was there from 2011 but wished to be a bit more early from the start 2007/2008. That community + LinuxBBQ taught me interesting things to learn.

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