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I need to run vbox with Debian 10, but how?

#1 Post by fender0107401 »

https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox
Debian 10 "Buster"

Packages for VirtualBox are not available in Debian 10 and won't be in buster-backports either. A recommended alternative is Virtual Machine Manager (buster/virt-manager).
https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch01. ... installing
Linux hosts (64-bit). Includes the following:

Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, 18.04 LTS and 18.10

Debian GNU/Linux 9 ("Stretch")

Oracle Linux 6 and 7

Redhat Enterprise Linux 6 and 7

Fedora 28 and 29

Gentoo Linux

SUSE Linux Enterprise server 12 and 15

openSUSE Leap 42.3 and 15.0

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Re: I need to run vbox with Debian 10, but how?

#2 Post by peer »

gewoon op de site van virtualbox: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads

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Re: I need to run vbox with Debian 10, but how?

#3 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

@OP: I recommend that you read the bug report linked on the Debian wiki page, VirtualBox is a pile of crap and should not be used.

Try gnome-boxes instead.
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Re: I need to run vbox with Debian 10, but how?

#4 Post by stevepusser »

It's also currently a trivial backport from Sid to Buster, if you care to do that.

Backport means rebuilding the packages from the debianized source on Buster; it does not mean to create a FrankenDebian by installing the upstream packages.
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Re: I need to run vbox with Debian 10, but how?

#5 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

stevepusser wrote:It's also currently a trivial backport from Sid to Buster, if you care to do that.
And how would you propose that the OP keep track of new vulnerabilities and update the package when needed?

Oracle don't even publish individual CVE's, they just offer new versions for the user to upgrade to.
Thorsten Glaser wrote:> and Oracle wants to support just the most recent versions, introducing

That is worded in a way to make the sentence wrong. What they do is
not publish security details, so others cannot even support older
versions *themselves*, which is proactively harmful. AIUI you get a
new release and either take it or not, with no separation of patches.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... 794466#215

TBH I'm a bit shocked that MX Linux are so blasé about VB and it's egregiously bad security support. Have you tried gnome-boxes? The UI is even simpler than VB and the performance is better for hardware-based virtualisation.
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#6 Post by Bulkley »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Try gnome-boxes instead.
Thanks for that; I never heard of gnome-boxes. I'm trying it now and, so far, it looks good.

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#7 Post by stevepusser »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
stevepusser wrote:It's also currently a trivial backport from Sid to Buster, if you care to do that.
And how would you propose that the OP keep track of new vulnerabilities and update the package when needed?

Oracle don't even publish individual CVE's, they just offer new versions for the user to upgrade to.
Thorsten Glaser wrote:> and Oracle wants to support just the most recent versions, introducing

That is worded in a way to make the sentence wrong. What they do is
not publish security details, so others cannot even support older
versions *themselves*, which is proactively harmful. AIUI you get a
new release and either take it or not, with no separation of patches.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... 794466#215

TBH I'm a bit shocked that MX Linux are so blasé about VB and it's egregiously bad security support. Have you tried gnome-boxes? The UI is even simpler than VB and the performance is better for hardware-based virtualisation.
That sounds interesting! I'll have to see if it supports shared folders like Vbox. The better performance would be a selling point.

Hmmm...well, the first thing it does is lock up my system tight if I try and boot an ISO when I'm running a Liquorix kernel. It does work when running the Debian/MX kernel, though.
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Re: I need to run vbox with Debian 10, but how?

#8 Post by stevepusser »

I also forgot to mention that I do have that repo with Vbox 6.0.10 already backported to Buster and Stretch, anyway:

https://build.opensuse.org/project/show ... box-buster
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Re: I need to run vbox with Debian 10, but how?

#9 Post by Bloom »

Why don't you use the VirtualBox repo?

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deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/ buster contrib non-free

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#10 Post by stevepusser »

I've found the Debian modifications to VBox make it easier to set up, that's why. We can also easily include built guest modules with the MX Linux ISO so the guest additions features work out of the box if you're testing it by using the Debian virtualbox-guest packages...can you tell us how to do that with the Oracle single deb package?
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#11 Post by bryanmc »

Excuse the slight hijack, but will gnome-boxes work with the cinnamon desktop or just pure gnome?

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bryanmc wrote:will gnome-boxes work with the cinnamon desktop or just pure gnome?
The gnome-boxes program should work with any desktop.
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Re: I need to run vbox with Debian 10, but how?

#13 Post by stevepusser »

Yes, it works for me on XFCE, as long as I'm not running a Liquorix kernel. I haven't found out how to transfer files to and from a guest with the Stretch version yet, though...that version doesn't support shared folders and I can't get the guest to pick up a USB drive when I tell it to use one--the guest just locks up. I can upload and download from my Google Drive at speeds much higher than a flash drive, though, so that's a viable workaround.
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Re: I need to run vbox with Debian 10, but how?

#14 Post by Bulkley »

Gnome-boxes is working on my Stretch Openbox.

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Re: I need to run vbox with Debian 10, but how?

#15 Post by duffy »

I have created several vm's with gnome-boxes. Then I used the information from this website to use virt-manager to run/change the vm:
https://blog.agchapman.com/configuring- ... t-manager/

Search the web to get information about how to get the most out of virt-manager.

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Re: I need to run vbox with Debian 10, but how?

#16 Post by fender0107401 »

VBox can be abandoned!

virt-manager is very good!

Check this: https://wiki.debian.org/KVM

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