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Ubuntu vs Debian
Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
C'mon, what's with this rash of 'what's the best' posts lately? There is no 'best' distro, there is no 'best' DE, etc., etc. What's 'best' is simply what's best for you. They all have strengths and weaknesses.
That said, Debian is the best.
That said, Debian is the best.
Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
This is a VS post not the best post.sgage wrote:C'mon, what's with this rash of 'what's the best' posts lately? There is no 'best' distro, there is no 'best' DE, etc., etc. What's 'best' is simply what's best for you. They all have strengths and weaknesses.
That said, Debian is the best.
There is always the best one.
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Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
We have all been there. Linux gives you mind boggling choice. That’s why we chose it. But, that choice can be paralyzing. So, you ask for advice. The problem is that such simple questions often (probably more so in the old days) lead to horrible fights or ranting threads that are a million posts long. Those of us who lived through those days are tired and cranky and still have nightmares. I suspect most people will say just try a few. Having said that, this is a Debian forum, so of course Debian is the one true Linux!crunchor wrote:This is a VS post not the best post.
There is always the best one.
Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
Unfortunately that choice is shrinking as the systemdOS takes root within Debian.
(It had to be said. I long for the days when Debian wasn't saddled by a web of interwoven, unnecessary, gratuitous coupling that often removes the modularity that Debian users enjoyed until 2014 when a seismic shift started to infect user freedoms.)
(It had to be said. I long for the days when Debian wasn't saddled by a web of interwoven, unnecessary, gratuitous coupling that often removes the modularity that Debian users enjoyed until 2014 when a seismic shift started to infect user freedoms.)
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Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
debian is leaner if u do a netinstall
ubuntu no as it includes snapd by default
systemd i love it
i have slotted all my start up services milliseconds apart by systemd timers
so convinient
love it
ubuntu no as it includes snapd by default
systemd i love it
i have slotted all my start up services milliseconds apart by systemd timers
so convinient
love it
Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
Honestly the Ubuntu forum is much more modern
It at least has responsive web design for mobile device
It at least has responsive web design for mobile device
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Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
I have no dog in this fight but I take issue with that.crunchor wrote:Honestly the Ubuntu forum is much more modern
It at least has responsive web design for mobile device
The one thing this forum does is work very well on a mobile, Any mobile not just android or apple. Try Ubuntu forum with links or lynx browsers and see the gobbledygook you get. I notice the active post is loaded with "Tug of war - community vs Mods". Every turn they try and get you to sign up by restricting your viewing rights. I've not been there for years and you reminded me why.
Not here. It just works and is quick and easy on any device and browser and in general the Mods do that. They have a thankless task just trying to keep the place running which they do and I for one thank them for it. Even if I don't always agree with them.
As to the topic and which is best... all depends on your priority's. What do you want from your distro?
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Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
I don't know how Ubuntu forum is related to Ubuntu or Canonical, but this is discussion forum for Debian userscrunchor wrote:Honestly the Ubuntu forum is much more modern
It at least has responsive web design for mobile device
*Official Debian' is at https://www.debian.org.
Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
Go to phpbb, they have responsive web forum now. Admin here just need to update the phpbb, it takes like 10 minutes.oswaldkelso wrote:I have no dog in this fight but I take issue with that.crunchor wrote:Honestly the Ubuntu forum is much more modern
It at least has responsive web design for mobile device
The one thing this forum does is work very well on a mobile, Any mobile not just android or apple. Try Ubuntu forum with links or lynx browsers and see the gobbledygook you get. I notice the active post is loaded with "Tug of war - community vs Mods". Every turn they try and get you to sign up by restricting your viewing rights. I've not been there for years and you reminded me why.
Not here. It just works and is quick and easy on any device and browser and in general the Mods do that. They have a thankless task just trying to keep the place running which they do and I for one thank them for it. Even if I don't always agree with them.
As to the topic and which is best... all depends on your priority's. What do you want from your distro?
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Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
Debian is better because of the Social Contract. The only contact Ubuntu want is a financial one...
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Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
IMHO a better question would be why everyone on this forum uses Debian as their (main) distro.
Maybe a separate sticky post would be helpful to prevent such future questions...
Maybe a separate sticky post would be helpful to prevent such future questions...
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Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
Good ideas. Go for it...Chrisdb wrote:IMHO a better question would be why everyone on this forum uses Debian as their (main) distro.
Maybe a separate sticky post would be helpful to prevent such future questions...
Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
Here we goneuraleskimo wrote:Good ideas. Go for it...Chrisdb wrote:IMHO a better question would be why everyone on this forum uses Debian as their (main) distro.
Maybe a separate sticky post would be helpful to prevent such future questions...
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=144676
Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
I now bring your attention to item #4 of said Social Contract:Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Debian is better because of the Social Contract.
And the reality of the pending General Resolution: Init systems and systemd on which users have no vote:4. Our priorities are our users and free software
We will be guided by the needs of our users and the free software community. We will place their interests first in our priorities. We will support the needs of our users for operation in many different kinds of computing environments . . .
Choice 1: F: Focus on systemd
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Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
^ I really don't think users should have a vote in GRs and I don't agree with you characterisation of the available choices. Furthermore I have linked the popcon statistics (over on your forums) which show that only ~1% of Debian users are booting with sysvinit so it does look like the community has already decided.
Anyway, this is all getting off-topic. Why do you prefer Debian (or Devuan) over Ubuntu?
Anyway, this is all getting off-topic. Why do you prefer Debian (or Devuan) over Ubuntu?
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Re: Ubuntu vs Debian
Hoas stop taking the piss.Head_on_a_Stick wrote:^ I have linked the popcon statistics (over on your forums) which show that only ~1% of Debian users are booting with sysvinit so it does look like the community has already decided.
1. Ordinary users won't do anything but run the default so that's most of that 99%.
2. The many technical users just accept it, if they like it or not.
3. The other technical users have jumped ship to other distros.
Maths can say what ever the mathematician wants it to say
Anyway back on topic. Given we have such as short list of distros and if my life depended on having to make a choice I'd choose Debian
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Ash init durbatulûk, ash init gimbatul,
Ash init thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
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Ash init durbatulûk, ash init gimbatul,
Ash init thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
My oldest used PC: 1999 imac 333Mhz 256MB PPC abandoned by Debian