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Postby Kenshin Himura » 2020-02-01 20:25

Good evening. Is it normal for my laptop to being hot while it streams video in 1080p resolution, its fans like taking off... And im afraid of any damage could accure. Why is this happnes, while a phone with snapdragon 425 can easily stream 1080p without getting more than 40c and my laptop with 3500u goes 65c+...
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Re: - High Temperatures While Streaming 1080p 60fps -

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-02-01 22:03

3rd generation Ryzen release date: 2019-7-7
Kernel v4.19 release date: 2018-10-22

So why do you expect Debian stable to support your hardware?
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Postby Kenshin Himura » 2020-02-02 00:22

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:3rd generation Ryzen release date: 2019-7-7
Kernel v4.19 release date: 2018-10-22

So why do you expect Debian stable to support your hardware?


I use bullseye with these sources

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ testing-security main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ testing-security main

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ testing-security main contrib non-free
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ testing-security main contrib non-free

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing-updates main contrib non-free

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
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Postby stevepusser » 2020-02-02 00:50

Apparently someone has not thought through the wisdom of adding a "backports" repo on testing, let alone the security and updates repos. :roll:

You also neglect to tell us exactly what program you're using to stream the video, the sources, the codecs they are using, and what work, if any, you've done to get video hardware acceleration working on your laptop. I know a backport of the testing Chromium browser to Buster allows me to go into its advanced settings to enable it to use va-api acceleration with the Intel UHD 630 on my laptop, and I can stream YT up to 4K, along with va-api in VLC, mpv, minitube, and QMPlay2, but I don't know anything about getting that to work on AMD hardware.

Currently, I've just backported the latest streamlink 1.3.1 to Buster, and will test those streams in VLC.
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Re: - High Temperatures While Streaming 1080p 60fps -

Postby Kenshin Himura » 2020-02-02 00:53

stevepusser wrote:Apparently someone has not thought through the wisdom of adding a "backports" repo on testing, let alone the security and updates repo. :roll:

You also neglect to tell us exactly what program you're using to stream the video, and what work, if any, you've done to get video hardware acceleration working on your laptop. I know a backport of the testing Chromium browser to Buster allows me to go into its advanced settings to enable it to use va-api acceleration with the Intel UHD 630 on my laptop, and I can stream YT up to 4K, along with va-api in VLC, mpv, minitube, and QMPlay2, but I don't know anything about getting that to work on AMD hardware.


Unfortunately im newbie in all this thats why im writing in a forum to get help... I use firefox to watch streams on twitch.
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Postby stevepusser » 2020-02-02 01:09

Yeah--apparently, you can use streamlink to send all twitch streams to VLC, so you just need to get hardware video acceleration to work in VLC. Unfortunately, lots of things can break va-api in my experience, so testing and Sid are the worst platforms to expect that to work, and even if you do get it working, an update the next day can break it for an unknown period.

Firefox doesn't support hardware-accelerated video at all in Linux. :(
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Postby Kenshin Himura » 2020-02-02 01:14

stevepusser wrote:Yeah--apparently, you can use streamlink to send all twitch streams to VLC, so you just need to get hardware video acceleration to work in VLC. Unfortunately, lots of things can break va-api in my experience, so testing and Sid are the worst platforms to expect that to work, and even if you do get it working, an update the next day can break it for an unknown period.

Firefox doesn't support hardware-accelerated video at all in Linux. :(


So for a gamer like me - and noob in linux world who wants to learn but right now doesnt ve much time cause university -, who loves open source and hate companies such us windows and ubuntu, what distro to do you suggest to support all these and be lightweight for my laptop?
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Re: - High Temperatures While Streaming 1080p 60fps -

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-02-02 09:47

Kenshin Himura wrote:I use bullseye with these sources

You should have included that information in the OP, please read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html before posting here again.

Note that while "bullseye" and "testing" are currently synonymous that will not always be the case so you should only have one or the other in your sources. Having both will result in a FrankenDebian once bullseye transitions to the stable release. Also, having multiple listings of the same repositories hits the servers unnecessarily. And there is no "bullseye-backports", as stevepusser notes, nor is there any coverage from the Security Team.

Kenshin Himura wrote:I use firefox to watch streams on twitch

I can watch 1080p@60fps videos from twitch in firefox-esr on my 2500u laptop without it overheating and with a constant CPU load of 25-30%, which is high (because FF doesn't use the graphics chip under GNU/Linux) but far from unacceptable.

Have you installed the non-free firmware and CPU µcode required by your machine?

Kenshin Himura wrote:doesnt ve much time cause university

Debian's development branches are a poor choice, they will break randomly from time-to-time and are not intended for general use. The Debian FAQ doesn't recommend testing for anybody because the transition delay from sid can leave the user exposed to vulnerabilities.

For more on this see https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debi ... .html#s3.1 & https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing

Kenshin Himura wrote:what distro to do you suggest to support all these and be lightweight for my laptop?

Debian stable with selected packages from the backports repository.
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Postby Kenshin Himura » 2020-02-02 10:27

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Kenshin Himura wrote:I use bullseye with these sources

You should have included that information in the OP, please read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html before posting here again.

Note that while "bullseye" and "testing" are currently synonymous that will not always be the case so you should only have one or the other in your sources. Having both will result in a FrankenDebian once bullseye transitions to the stable release. Also, having multiple listings of the same repositories hits the servers unnecessarily. And there is no "bullseye-backports", as stevepusser notes, nor is there any coverage from the Security Team.

Kenshin Himura wrote:I use firefox to watch streams on twitch

I can watch 1080p@60fps videos from twitch in firefox-esr on my 2500u laptop without it overheating and with a constant CPU load of 25-30%, which is high (because FF doesn't use the graphics chip under GNU/Linux) but far from unacceptable.

Have you installed the non-free firmware and CPU µcode required by your machine?

Kenshin Himura wrote:doesnt ve much time cause university

Debian's development branches are a poor choice, they will break randomly from time-to-time and are not intended for general use. The Debian FAQ doesn't recommend testing for anybody because the transition delay from sid can leave the user exposed to vulnerabilities.

For more on this see https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debi ... .html#s3.1 & https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing

Kenshin Himura wrote:what distro to do you suggest to support all these and be lightweight for my laptop?

Debian stable with selected packages from the backports repository.


I can't install Debian buster on my PC cause kernel 4.19 leaves me with a black screen in the first boot, I ve manage to install Debian testing and only via the live installer.
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Re: - High Temperatures While Streaming 1080p 60fps -

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-02-02 11:03

Please don't full quote unnecessarily, it ruins the readability of the thread.

Kenshin Himura wrote:I can't install Debian buster on my PC cause kernel 4.19 leaves me with a black screen in the first boot

See viewtopic.php?f=16&t=142974 for a method to boot the machine to a console screen instead of the graphical desktop then add the buster-backports repository and install the newer kernel, firmware and µcode from there.
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Postby Kenshin Himura » 2020-02-02 12:51

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Please don't full quote unnecessarily, it ruins the readability of the thread.


See viewtopic.php?f=16&t=142974 for a method to boot the machine to a console screen instead of the graphical desktop then add the buster-backports repository and install the newer kernel, firmware and µcode from there.


is there any full guide for all these? Plus how to coonect into internet via the console in order to download all these things?
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Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-02-02 12:58

Kenshin Himura wrote:is there any full guide for all these?

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=139003

Kenshin Himura wrote:how to coonect into internet via the console

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Postby Kenshin Himura » 2020-02-02 14:05

I all stick with testing for now. Unfortunately the first try was a failure and I don't have much time to invest into this, at least the testing works out of the box for me.
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Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-02-02 17:40

So far, so good, eh? Well post back when it breaks on you then. I will say "I told you so", so be prepared :mrgreen:
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Postby Kenshin Himura » 2020-02-02 18:33

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:So far, so good, eh? Well post back when it breaks on you then. I will say "I told you so", so be prepared :mrgreen:


I ll never come and to you such things, I appreciate the time and effort you put at the project, but unfortunately all these scattered guides should be merge into one step by step for those who want to install the stable version of Debian but with the newest kernel and hardware. As I said I'm noon and I strongly believe I'm not the only one around here, its easy to burn a stick and install a distro at your PC but asking from others with poor knowledge to consoles at start screen change lines and etc its certainly that its gonna be a failure, at least at the beginning, but as I said right now I don't be time to invest, if there was a complete guide for all these I would certainly put one or two hours into it, in order to set up my distro as best as I can.
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