Howto: Installing and configuring Debian Buster

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Re: Howto: Installing and configuring Debian Buster

Postby trinidad » 2020-03-20 11:02

I tried the nonfree software disc firmware-10.2.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso and it was essentially useless


The most troublefree install ISO is the non-free NET-INSTALL ISO, NOT the DVD version. You probably didn't set your sources correctly. Also you probably needed mode-setting on the ATI card, and/or a GFX resolution setting.

And, if I recall correctly, when I got it installed it gave you only one desktop,... Xfce


You don't recall correctly. All my gnome with wayland installations are from the non-free net-install ISO.

By the way, recently I needed the address of the preearth.net page at a friend's place and searched for it with Google. Google did not seem to list it in any shape or form


Could be its missing cert, and/or a domain name or copyright infringement.

Do you think this is deliberate censorship by Google?


Google can't censor anything, excepting only what user/you or some law/government or user/MS/Intel/cartel tell them to.

I might stop using Google


Good idea. Maybe you'll lose this address too.

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Re: Howto: Installing and configuring Debian Buster

Postby None1975 » 2020-03-20 14:42

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# apt install ttf-liberation


Such a package, ttf-liberation, is in Jessie and Stretch repos, but not in Buster repo. In Buster repos is
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fonts-liberation


Please, correct this. By the way, nice guide.
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Re: Howto: Installing and configuring Debian Buster

Postby Hallvor » 2020-03-20 19:22

Thank you!

Updated.
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Re: Howto: Installing and configuring Debian Buster

Postby Bagger » 2020-08-30 12:28

Bulkley wrote:Many years ago I tried using deb-multimedia. It worked . . . for a while. I made the mistake of leaving the repository open and things went awry. It looked to me that deb-multimedia packages were out of sync with Stable, as if they were jumping the curve to be ahead of Debian. They simply didn't mesh properly.

If you choose to use deb-multimedia packages only install one at a time and test it thoroughly. Don't let it install other packages and don't leave the repository open. Personally, I learned my lesson and don't use it.


Hi bit of a newbie with debian, actually its my first install, and its pretty much doing what I want it for.

Although I had to add the deb.multmedia to the sources list, to be able to get the latest version of kodi.
What exactly do you mean by dont leave it open ? would removing it from the sources list after it finishes suffice ?

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Re: Howto: Installing and configuring Debian Buster

Postby cuckooflew » 2020-08-30 13:07

There are various ways to "not leave it open" remove it, pin it, comment it out, maybe you should read more documentation before using it. EG: 1st>https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
All though deb-multimedia is not listed, it should be. But it could be considered a "random website". As a newbie, you should just stay with the Debian repositories until you have a better understanding of the packaging system, etc.
In all the years I have been using Debian, I have never needed these "deb-multimedia", or any other random websites, and do not use them. Recently I did download some, from somewhere, to try to test and trouble shoot for some one , but the results were the same, "Best to just not use them!", Others will disagree, and some will tell you they are ok, ...the only secure way to decide is using your own experience,and learning about the "Debian way", |||https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Don.27t_blindly_follow_bad_advice
Don't blindly follow bad advice

Unfortunately there's a lot of bad advice on the Internet. Tutorials found on blogs, forums and other sites often include instructions that will break your system in subtle ways. Don't simply follow the first advice you find, or the tutorial that seems the easiest. Spend some time reading the documentation and compare the difference between tutorials.

It's better to take the time to figure out the correct way to do something first than spending even more time fixing a broken system later. You would not let some random stranger feed your baby; do not execute commands without first understanding what they do.

Blog and forum posts don't expire. Instructions that might have been safe a couple of years ago might not be safe to follow any more. When in doubt keep researching and read your version's documentation.


by Bagger » Although I had to add the deb.multmedia to the sources list, to be able to get the latest version of kodi.

I can see you are one of these,> https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Don.27t_suffer_from_Shiny_New_Stuff_Syndrome"Must have the newest",just does things randomly , with out thinking or reading anything , all ways in a hurry, etc,...so guess I just wasted time here, ...You don't really need the latest version of kodi, but then you probably also think you still need MS windows, ....maybe ask Bester69,
he will be happy to mislead you and give you bad advice.
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Re: Howto: Installing and configuring Debian Buster

Postby Head_on_a_Stick » 2020-08-30 17:32

Bagger wrote:I had to add the deb.multmedia to the sources list, to be able to get the latest version of kodi

Yeah, good luck with that. The maintainer is a Debian developer but the repository has been the root cause of *many* problem threads here.

Possibly "safer" alternative (at least in respect of dependency hell): https://flathub.org/apps/details/tv.kodi.Kodi

But do you really need the newer version?
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Re: Howto: Installing and configuring Debian Buster

Postby Bagger » 2020-08-30 21:55

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Bagger wrote:I had to add the deb.multmedia to the sources list, to be able to get the latest version of kodi

Yeah, good luck with that. The maintainer is a Debian developer but the repository has been the root cause of *many* problem threads here.

Possibly "safer" alternative (at least in respect of dependency hell): https://flathub.org/apps/details/tv.kodi.Kodi

But do you really need the newer version?


Yeah, the version available that it installs stock is kodi 17.6. It will hardware decode hevc but only 8 bit. Kodi 18.x is required for hardware decoding hevc 10 bit.
besides 17.6 is pretty old now, Ive been using it on my current setup for the last 3 years. From experience kodi addons like movie,tv scrapers etc seem to stop working, due to lack of support for the older version.
So it time to upate/upgrade. I`m trying to put together another htpc to last another 3 years or so.
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Re: Howto: Installing and configuring Debian Buster

Postby Bagger » 2020-08-30 22:17

cuckooflew wrote:There are various ways to "not leave it open" remove it, pin it, comment it out, maybe you should read more documentation before using it. EG: 1st>https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
All though deb-multimedia is not listed, it should be. But it could be considered a "random website". As a newbie, you should just stay with the Debian repositories until you have a better understanding of the packaging system, etc.
In all the years I have been using Debian, I have never needed these "deb-multimedia", or any other random websites, and do not use them. Recently I did download some, from somewhere, to try to test and trouble shoot for some one , but the results were the same, "Best to just not use them!", Others will disagree, and some will tell you they are ok, ...the only secure way to decide is using your own experience,and learning about the "Debian way", |||https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Don.27t_blindly_follow_bad_advice
Don't blindly follow bad advice

Unfortunately there's a lot of bad advice on the Internet. Tutorials found on blogs, forums and other sites often include instructions that will break your system in subtle ways. Don't simply follow the first advice you find, or the tutorial that seems the easiest. Spend some time reading the documentation and compare the difference between tutorials.

It's better to take the time to figure out the correct way to do something first than spending even more time fixing a broken system later. You would not let some random stranger feed your baby; do not execute commands without first understanding what they do.

Blog and forum posts don't expire. Instructions that might have been safe a couple of years ago might not be safe to follow any more. When in doubt keep researching and read your version's documentation.


by Bagger » Although I had to add the deb.multmedia to the sources list, to be able to get the latest version of kodi.

I can see you are one of these,> https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Don.27t_suffer_from_Shiny_New_Stuff_Syndrome"Must have the newest",just does things randomly , with out thinking or reading anything , all ways in a hurry, etc,...so guess I just wasted time here, ...You don't really need the latest version of kodi, but then you probably also think you still need MS windows, ....maybe ask Bester69,
he will be happy to mislead you and give you bad advice.
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lol, that started well and turned into some kind of witch hunt or something where I must be burnt at the stake for suggesting something different. Why did you turn it into something like that ?? assumptions...tut..tut
And yes in order for me to do what I'm aiming to do, then yes I need the latest version of kodi. saying that I dont need it when you have no idea of my goal is just plain short sighted.

I thank you for your first piece of advice. I have already commented it out and updated the list, but to go off on a rant at someone that you dont know or have no idea what their goals are.....shame on you....seriously shame on you.
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Re: Howto: Installing and configuring Debian Buster

Postby ssear » 2020-09-08 17:31

Thank you very much Hallvor for this amazing guide.

You've save my day :)

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Re: Howto: Installing and configuring Debian Buster

Postby cuckooflew » 2020-09-08 21:04

by Bagger » 2020-08-30 22:17 >>Why did you turn it into something like that ?? assumptions...tut..tut
And yes in order for me to do what I'm aiming to do, then yes I need the latest version of kodi. saying that I dot need it when you have no idea of my goal is just plain short sighted.

Well, you are right, so I can apologize, I am a real arsehole, and worse when it is a bad day, but any way, yea, the assumptions, that is what got me, I see you claim you really do need it, you and a few others will be happy to know I won't be posting any more, at least for few days, and maybe never, again , apology for being the way I am, I never could be perfect like the rest of the world, ... but thanks for
lol, that started well and turned into some kind of witch hunt or something where I must be burnt at the stake for suggesting something different. Why did you turn it into something like that ?? assumptions...tut..tut
It did start out well, Why did I turn it into something like that ? Who knows, guess it is because I am not nice, and am a real arse,.. The main point , try to stay away from the multi media repos,
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