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AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

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AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#1 Post by ChameleonScales »

Is there a way to get the proprietary driver for Radeon VII on Debian Buster ?
The AMD driver download page only includes other distros and the Debian Wiki gives no mention of Radeon VII anywhere. (and I didn't find any answer on the rest of the web)

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Re: AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#2 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Why do you think you need the AMDGPU-PRO drivers? If your card isn't performing well then you probably just need the non-free firmware.

The open source drivers out-perform the proprietary versions at almost every task. See the Phoronix website for more on this.
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Re: AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#3 Post by ChameleonScales »

I'm experiencing a noticeably low framerate with my cursor (no application opened).

Just to be sure, you're suggesting simply:

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sudo apt-get install firmware-amd-graphics
provided that "contrib" and "non-free" were added in sources.list
is that right ?

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Re: AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#4 Post by ChameleonScales »

I just tried anyway but it didn't make a difference even after a reboot.
I hope there's a solution to this because my mouse is moving in very noticeable steps and this happens only on Debian (I've installed other distros on this computer and none of them have this issue)

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Re: AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#5 Post by Deb-fan »

Those other distro's are not Debian gnu/nix. With this projects stance on no proprietary (nonfree) setup out-of-box, there's your trouble. Such things are left to the legions of Debian-based to handle for people. For which Debian is the source and those distro's life's blood too. It can be anything a nixer wishes but they do have to learn things to expect a smooth experience. A never ending flood of people who don't bother learning or researching to use something they apparently want and always with the others don't xyz, no problem in xyz, like it's Debian's failing rather than their own. If xyz works so awesome, w/o effort ... why not use those instead? :)

Ps, this has been a pointless gotta vent moment.
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Re: AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#6 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

ChameleonScales wrote:is that right ?
Let's check:

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apt policy firmware-amd-graphics
# dmesg | grep firmware
Can we also see

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glxinfo -B
Have you tried any graphically-intensive programs at all? A laggy cursor is a weird problem.

Does the cursor also lag with a touchpad (if you have one) or with a different mouse?

And did you search the interweb for a specific solution to that problem before posting? For example: https://askubuntu.com/questions/763413/ ... der-ubuntu
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Re: AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#7 Post by No_windows »

If it's a wireless mouse, check the batteries.

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Re: AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#8 Post by ChameleonScales »

Thanks for your help. Here's what you asked :

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$ apt policy firmware-amd-graphics
firmware-amd-graphics:
  Installed: 20190114-2
  Candidate: 20190114-2
  Version table:
 *** 20190114-2 500
        500 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/non-free amd64 Packages
        500 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/non-free i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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# dmesg | grep firmware
[    7.316829] r8188eu 3-3:1.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin
[   33.998016] r8188eu 3-3:1.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin
[   67.003978] r8188eu 3-3:1.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin
[  110.020772] r8188eu 3-3:1.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin
[  162.999855] r8188eu 3-3:1.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin
[  226.041156] r8188eu 3-3:1.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin

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$ glxinfo -B
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer):
    Vendor: VMware, Inc. (0xffffffff)
    Device: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0, 128 bits) (0xffffffff)
    Version: 18.3.6
    Accelerated: no
    Video memory: 64435MB
    Unified memory: no
    Preferred profile: core (0x1)
    Max core profile version: 3.3
    Max compat profile version: 3.1
    Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1
    Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.0
OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0, 128 bits)
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 18.3.6
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 3.30
OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile

OpenGL version string: 3.1 Mesa 18.3.6
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.40
OpenGL context flags: (none)

OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.0 Mesa 18.3.6
OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.00
Have you tried any graphically-intensive programs at all?
Yes, 3D graphics in Blender are extremely laggy.
Does the cursor also lag with a different mouse?
Yes, I have 3 mouses, tried them all, they all do the same.
did you search the interweb for a specific solution to that problem
Yes. It didn't help. And I wouldn't expect it to since the issue doesn't seem to be specifically mouse or cursor-related.

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Re: AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#9 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

ChameleonScales wrote:

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    Vendor: VMware, Inc. (0xffffffff)
Is this running in a VM?

Can we see

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lspci -knn | grep -iA3 'vga\|display\|3d'
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Re: AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#10 Post by ChameleonScales »

Is this running in a VM?
I installed Debian by booting my computer into a live USB so, unless it's possible to do it in such a way that it's virtualized, no.

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$lspci -knn | grep -iA3 'vga\|display\|3d'
0c:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Vega 20 [Radeon VII] [1002:66af] (rev c1)
	Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Vega 20 [Radeon VII] [1002:081e]
	Kernel modules: amdgpu
0c:00.1 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Vega 20 HDMI Audio [Radeon VII] [1002:ab20]

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#11 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Vega 20 is too new for buster's ageing kernel, try installing the kernel & firmware-amd-graphics packages from the buster-backports repository: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=139003

Once you're booted with the newer kernel run my posted lspci command again and confirm you have this line:

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        Kernel driver in use: amdgpu
And also grep dmesg(1) again to check if the Vega 20 firmware is loaded, if it isn't then try MX Linux's firmware package instead: http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/ahs/l/li ... +1_all.deb
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Re: AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#12 Post by ChameleonScales »

I did all of that and the lag didn't go away... until I installed the MX Linux firmware, so you're my savior!
Now I do have the line "Kernel driver in use: amdgpu"

However, the

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dmesg | grep firmware
throws me some failures:

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[    2.679797] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/vega20_sdma.bin
[    2.679804] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/vega20_sdma1.bin
[    2.680133] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/vega20_sos.bin
[    2.680147] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/vega20_asd.bin
[    2.680154] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: failed to load amdgpu/vega20_ta.bin (-2)
[    2.680156] firmware_class: See https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware for information about missing firmware
[    2.680158] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: Direct firmware load for amdgpu/vega20_ta.bin failed with error -2
[    2.680159] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: psp v11.0: Failed to load firmware "amdgpu/vega20_ta.bin"
[    2.680166] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/vega20_pfp.bin
[    2.680172] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/vega20_me.bin
[    2.680178] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/vega20_ce.bin
[    2.680187] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/vega20_rlc.bin
[    2.680215] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/vega20_mec.bin
[    2.680242] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/vega20_mec2.bin
[    2.681183] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/vega20_smc.bin
[    2.681231] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/vega20_uvd.bin
[    2.681232] [drm] Found UVD firmware ENC: 1.2 DEC: .43 Family ID: 19
[    2.681235] [drm] PSP loading UVD firmware
[    2.681822] amdgpu 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/vega20_vce.bin
[    2.681823] [drm] Found VCE firmware Version: 57.6 Binary ID: 4
[    2.681825] [drm] PSP loading VCE firmware
[   10.586405] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: firmware: failed to load iwlwifi-cc-a0-50.ucode (-2)
[   10.586408] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-cc-a0-50.ucode failed with error -2
[   10.586570] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: firmware: failed to load iwlwifi-cc-a0-49.ucode (-2)
[   10.586571] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-cc-a0-49.ucode failed with error -2
[   10.588236] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware iwlwifi-cc-a0-48.ucode
[   10.588418] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: loaded firmware version 48.4fa0041f.0 op_mode iwlmvm
[   10.653386] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: Allocated 0x00400000 bytes for firmware monitor.
[   11.407284] r8169 0000:06:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware rtl_nic/rtl8125a-3.fw
[   11.869389] r8188eu 5-4:1.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin
But otherwise the system works smoothly now, including 3D graphics so, thanks a lot!

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#13 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

ChameleonScales wrote:I did all of that and the lag didn't go away... until I installed the MX Linux firmware, so you're my savior!
Don't thank me, thank @stevepusser and the awesome MX Linux devs who ported the newer firmware from Ubuntu to a Debian buster base.
ChameleonScales wrote:the

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dmesg | grep firmware
throws me some failures
Yeah, the kernel goes through a list of potential firmware. As long as something was loaded and the device actually works then those errors are nothing to worry about.
ChameleonScales wrote:otherwise the system works smoothly now, including 3D graphics
Fantastic news, please edit the title of the thread (in your first post) and prepend [SOLVED] to help others who may have this problem. Thanks.
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Re: AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#14 Post by ChameleonScales »

One last thing:
I'm apparently missing OpenCL because I can't enable it in Blender.
I tried this idea of using the proprietary driver for Ubuntu but it did'nt make a difference for Blender in my case.
So while my lag issue is gone, the original question remains unsolved at the moment.

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#15 Post by stevepusser »

The amdgpu driver should use the mesa icd packages for openCL, but don't ask me if it's recent enough to work on your hardware: mesa-opencl-icd

That ahs respin I have has the 19.3.3 mesa version, but I haven't checked if backports has done a newer mesa yet.
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#16 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Use the clinfo package to check support.

This is from my system with a Vega 8 iGPU:

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Number of platforms                               1
  Platform Name                                   Clover
  Platform Vendor                                 Mesa
  Platform Version                                OpenCL 1.1 Mesa 18.3.6
  Platform Profile                                FULL_PROFILE
  Platform Extensions                             cl_khr_icd
  Platform Extensions function suffix             MESA

  Platform Name                                   Clover
Number of devices                                 1
  Device Name                                     AMD RAVEN (DRM 3.27.0, 4.19.0-8-amd64, LLVM 7.0.1)
  Device Vendor                                   AMD
  Device Vendor ID                                0x1002
  Device Version                                  OpenCL 1.1 Mesa 18.3.6
  Driver Version                                  18.3.6
  Device OpenCL C Version                         OpenCL C 1.1 
  Device Type                                     GPU
  Device Profile                                  FULL_PROFILE
  Device Available                                Yes
  Compiler Available                              Yes
  Max compute units                               8
  Max clock frequency                             1100MHz
  Max work item dimensions                        3
  Max work item sizes                             256x256x256
  Max work group size                             256
  Preferred work group size multiple              64
  Preferred / native vector sizes                 
    char                                                16 / 16      
    short                                                8 / 8       
    int                                                  4 / 4       
    long                                                 2 / 2       
    half                                                 8 / 8        (cl_khr_fp16)
    float                                                4 / 4       
    double                                               2 / 2        (cl_khr_fp64)
  Half-precision Floating-point support           (cl_khr_fp16)
    Denormals                                     No
    Infinity and NANs                             Yes
    Round to nearest                              Yes
    Round to zero                                 No
    Round to infinity                             No
    IEEE754-2008 fused multiply-add               No
    Support is emulated in software               No
  Single-precision Floating-point support         (core)
    Denormals                                     No
    Infinity and NANs                             Yes
    Round to nearest                              Yes
    Round to zero                                 No
    Round to infinity                             No
    IEEE754-2008 fused multiply-add               No
    Support is emulated in software               No
    Correctly-rounded divide and sqrt operations  No
  Double-precision Floating-point support         (cl_khr_fp64)
    Denormals                                     Yes
    Infinity and NANs                             Yes
    Round to nearest                              Yes
    Round to zero                                 Yes
    Round to infinity                             Yes
    IEEE754-2008 fused multiply-add               Yes
    Support is emulated in software               No
  Address bits                                    64, Little-Endian
  Global memory size                              3221225472 (3GiB)
  Error Correction support                        No
  Max memory allocation                           2254857830 (2.1GiB)
  Unified memory for Host and Device              No
  Minimum alignment for any data type             128 bytes
  Alignment of base address                       32768 bits (4096 bytes)
  Global Memory cache type                        None
  Image support                                   No
  Local memory type                               Local
  Local memory size                               32768 (32KiB)
  Max number of constant args                     16
  Max constant buffer size                        2147483647 (2GiB)
  Max size of kernel argument                     1024
  Queue properties                                
    Out-of-order execution                        No
    Profiling                                     Yes
  Profiling timer resolution                      0ns
  Execution capabilities                          
    Run OpenCL kernels                            Yes
    Run native kernels                            No
  Device Extensions                               cl_khr_byte_addressable_store cl_khr_global_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_global_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_int64_base_atomics cl_khr_int64_extended_atomics cl_khr_fp64 cl_khr_fp16

NULL platform behavior
  clGetPlatformInfo(NULL, CL_PLATFORM_NAME, ...)  Clover
  clGetDeviceIDs(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ALL, ...)   Success [MESA]
  clCreateContext(NULL, ...) [default]            Success [MESA]
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_DEFAULT)  Success (1)
    Platform Name                                 Clover
    Device Name                                   AMD RAVEN (DRM 3.27.0, 4.19.0-8-amd64, LLVM 7.0.1)
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_CPU)  No devices found in platform
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_GPU)  Success (1)
    Platform Name                                 Clover
    Device Name                                   AMD RAVEN (DRM 3.27.0, 4.19.0-8-amd64, LLVM 7.0.1)
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ACCELERATOR)  No devices found in platform
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_CUSTOM)  No devices found in platform
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ALL)  Success (1)
    Platform Name                                 Clover
    Device Name                                   AMD RAVEN (DRM 3.27.0, 4.19.0-8-amd64, LLVM 7.0.1)

ICD loader properties
  ICD loader Name                                 OpenCL ICD Loader
  ICD loader Vendor                               OCL Icd free software
  ICD loader Version                              2.2.12
  ICD loader Profile                              OpenCL 2.2
And this is from Blender:
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To get that working I had to set this variable:

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# /etc/environment.d/00opencl.conf
CYCLES_OPENCL_SPLIT_KERNEL_TEST=1
We don't need no stinkin' AMDGPU-PRO... :mrgreen:
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Re: AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#17 Post by ChameleonScales »

I get this:

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$ clinfo
Number of platforms                               0

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#18 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

You forgot to tell us which packages you installed for OpenCL support.
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Re: AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#19 Post by ChameleonScales »

Sorry. I forgot that I uninstalled mesa-opencl before doing clinfo.
I have 18.3.6 and no update was available after enabling backports.
OpenCL is still unavailable in Blender.

Here's my clinfo now :

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Number of platforms                               1
  Platform Name                                   Clover
  Platform Vendor                                 Mesa
  Platform Version                                OpenCL 1.1 Mesa 18.3.6
  Platform Profile                                FULL_PROFILE
  Platform Extensions                             cl_khr_icd
  Platform Extensions function suffix             MESA

  Platform Name                                   Clover
Number of devices                                 1
  Device Name                                     AMD Radeon VII (VEGA20, DRM 3.35.0, 5.4.0-0.bpo.4-amd64, LLVM 7.0.1)
  Device Vendor                                   AMD
  Device Vendor ID                                0x1002
  Device Version                                  OpenCL 1.1 Mesa 18.3.6
  Driver Version                                  18.3.6
  Device OpenCL C Version                         OpenCL C 1.1 
  Device Type                                     GPU
  Device Profile                                  FULL_PROFILE
  Device Available                                Yes
  Compiler Available                              Yes
  Max compute units                               60
  Max clock frequency                             1801MHz
  Max work item dimensions                        3
  Max work item sizes                             256x256x256
  Max work group size                             256
  Preferred work group size multiple              64
  Preferred / native vector sizes                 
    char                                                16 / 16      
    short                                                8 / 8       
    int                                                  4 / 4       
    long                                                 2 / 2       
    half                                                 8 / 8        (cl_khr_fp16)
    float                                                4 / 4       
    double                                               2 / 2        (cl_khr_fp64)
  Half-precision Floating-point support           (cl_khr_fp16)
    Denormals                                     No
    Infinity and NANs                             Yes
    Round to nearest                              Yes
    Round to zero                                 No
    Round to infinity                             No
    IEEE754-2008 fused multiply-add               No
    Support is emulated in software               No
  Single-precision Floating-point support         (core)
    Denormals                                     No
    Infinity and NANs                             Yes
    Round to nearest                              Yes
    Round to zero                                 No
    Round to infinity                             No
    IEEE754-2008 fused multiply-add               No
    Support is emulated in software               No
    Correctly-rounded divide and sqrt operations  No
  Double-precision Floating-point support         (cl_khr_fp64)
    Denormals                                     Yes
    Infinity and NANs                             Yes
    Round to nearest                              Yes
    Round to zero                                 Yes
    Round to infinity                             Yes
    IEEE754-2008 fused multiply-add               Yes
    Support is emulated in software               No
  Address bits                                    64, Little-Endian
  Global memory size                              17163091968 (15.98GiB)
  Error Correction support                        No
  Max memory allocation                           13730473574 (12.79GiB)
  Unified memory for Host and Device              No
  Minimum alignment for any data type             128 bytes
  Alignment of base address                       32768 bits (4096 bytes)
  Global Memory cache type                        None
  Image support                                   No
  Local memory type                               Local
  Local memory size                               32768 (32KiB)
  Max number of constant args                     16
  Max constant buffer size                        2147483647 (2GiB)
  Max size of kernel argument                     1024
  Queue properties                                
    Out-of-order execution                        No
    Profiling                                     Yes
  Profiling timer resolution                      0ns
  Execution capabilities                          
    Run OpenCL kernels                            Yes
    Run native kernels                            No
  Device Extensions                               cl_khr_byte_addressable_store cl_khr_global_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_global_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_int64_base_atomics cl_khr_int64_extended_atomics cl_khr_fp64 cl_khr_fp16

NULL platform behavior
  clGetPlatformInfo(NULL, CL_PLATFORM_NAME, ...)  Clover
  clGetDeviceIDs(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ALL, ...)   Success [MESA]
  clCreateContext(NULL, ...) [default]            Success [MESA]
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_DEFAULT)  Success (1)
    Platform Name                                 Clover
    Device Name                                   AMD Radeon VII (VEGA20, DRM 3.35.0, 5.4.0-0.bpo.4-amd64, LLVM 7.0.1)
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_CPU)  No devices found in platform
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_GPU)  Success (1)
    Platform Name                                 Clover
    Device Name                                   AMD Radeon VII (VEGA20, DRM 3.35.0, 5.4.0-0.bpo.4-amd64, LLVM 7.0.1)
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ACCELERATOR)  No devices found in platform
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_CUSTOM)  No devices found in platform
  clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ALL)  Success (1)
    Platform Name                                 Clover
    Device Name                                   AMD Radeon VII (VEGA20, DRM 3.35.0, 5.4.0-0.bpo.4-amd64, LLVM 7.0.1)

ICD loader properties
  ICD loader Name                                 OpenCL ICD Loader
  ICD loader Vendor                               OCL Icd free software
  ICD loader Version                              2.2.12
  ICD loader Profile                              OpenCL 2.2
I guess I need a newer mesa-opencl-icd version but I tried v20.0.4 for Debian sid and it told me that

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installing libc6:amd64 would break locales, and deconfiguration is not permitted
If this requires risky system modifications, I can wait until buster-backports have a newer version. And if they never do I can probably wait for the next Debian release if it's under or around a year of waiting. There's no rush for me. I have a dual boot with manjaro. Maybe I'll try to migrate all my work and pipeline there in the mean time.

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Re: AMD Radeon VII proprietary driver?

#20 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

ChameleonScales wrote:OpenCL is still unavailable in Blender.
Did you set the environmental variable I mentioned at the end of my last post before starting Blender?
ChameleonScales wrote:If this requires risky system modifications
Adding sid to a stable system is unwise unless you really know what you're doing. And if the package needs a newer glibc version then it won't be backported.
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