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What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1601 Post by oswaldkelso »

I was looking through my machine that I used to try out WMs on (There were 37 half duffers or beyond me) But I recalled this one and thought I spend a bit of time on it working it out. If you like light (half a MB) keyboard and mouse driven easy to use OOTB but you have to tweak it to be efficient. I found not much point in panels because of how it's designed but ymmv.

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I wonder if anyone recognises it.. 3 guesses via PM If you think you know it :twisted:
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1602 Post by dwasi »

oswaldkelso wrote: I wonder if anyone recognises it.. 3 guesses via PM If you think you know it :twisted:
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Looks a little bit like a blue screen of death to me. Is it Windows XP? :D

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1603 Post by dwasi »

Here's mine:

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Preview is cutting it off at the edge, so click through to see the whole thing if you want.

Simple, basic. A few changes to Cinnamon to make it look a little more MATEy and get rid of those awful Ubuntu fonts. Otherwise pretty much stock Mint. They do include some very nice wallpapers, like this one.

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1604 Post by oswaldkelso »

dwasi: are your sure that broken link is not yours :-)

My usual D2 install. Mystery wm again. One showing 6 grouped tabs one with 10 tabs in a terminal one of those with 10 "tabs" in screen on one of 10 desktops :lol:
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Another showing the fittstool notifier (xmessage) and wmfishtime under wmbubble. Time and cpu load are two things I really need on my older hardware. I currently have 2000 wallpapers changing every 30 seconds so set lilyterm to semi transparent. I tend to be all or nothing when it comes to backgrounds. But do like switching to an empty desktop when away from the computer and having nice images flash across the screen.
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You can setup tags for groups and workspaces. Though finding the docs if a bit of a challenge on a setup that's 20 years old but I find exploring these old systems is also really fascinating.

icewm again: My usual setup nothing left to tweak!
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1605 Post by dwasi »

oswaldkelso wrote:dwasi: are your sure that broken link is not yours :-)
Positive. :D That's why I made sure your text was visible in the screenshot.

They're visible now. All day yesterday they were showing that blue 503. Maybe try a different free hosting?

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1606 Post by oswaldkelso »

Well, I decided that as I was in no state to hack PWM and I wanted to try something that was light, stable but current so I decided I'd try the venerable TWM.

Wow. Once you get past the horrible green OOTB thing and start reading probably the best man page ever.. It turns out to be very capable, dare I say powerful and actually quite a joy to use.

The only issue I encountered was when trying it on Buster (this was meant to be in the other thread!) Unfortunately I got a permissions error and could only start it as root! Logged out shutdown and restarted or at least tried to because I'd got a non bootable system. I tried the usual rescue mode and grub-rescue but no go so I repeat via a live CD, still no go so after a little rtfm it seems the disk is likely dying. I try fsck but no luck with that either. Anyway I formatted the drive and installed exe-gnu and the damn thing worked. Shall wait and see if the drive is going to go or if buster is trying to live up to it's name :mrgreen:

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1607 Post by Nili »

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1608 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

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Something's not quite right here but I can't put my finger on it... :mrgreen:
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1609 Post by stulchak »

Nili wrote:Image

Photo credit: takahiro taguchi
The lower window is some kind of Japanese version of a music player? On the official website https://deadbeef.sourceforge.io I saw only a white window of the player. Maybe this https://sourceforge.net/projects/deadbeef/files/travis/linux/1.8.3/deadbeef-static_1.8.3-1_amd64.deb/downloadcs

And how did he manage to achieve one color scheme of all the windows?

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1610 Post by Nili »

stulchak wrote:The lower window is some kind of Japanese version of a music player? On the official website https://deadbeef.sourceforge.io I saw only a white window of the player. Maybe this https://sourceforge.net/projects/deadbeef/files/travis/linux/1.8.3/deadbeef-static_1.8.3-1_amd64.deb/downloadcs

And how did he manage to achieve one color scheme of all the windows?
Music player is DeaDBeeF (Author is Alexey Yakovenko, idk, I don't believe the player is a Japanese made :)
More or less the link you pulled out. I only use daily/nightly static-build from here
- The static-build is not installable, simply download/extract and run it.

Regarding color scheme, The background color is covered by player itself. From menu 1) Edit > Preferences > Appearance > Playlist
When you come to Playlist, on the right there is "Background" settings like
* Events:
* Odd:
* Selected:
* Cursors:
Those four settings are clickable from where you choose (color names, ie: #111121). I have chosen this number for all four parts.

Other colors features from listview.
%artist% - %title% - %duration%

There is a header with names Artist/Title/Duration etc columns... right click to the names then go to "Edit column" at the bottom of the Column dialog there is a "Text color"
Click the color settings and change it to your chosen number associated with activation of checkbox.
Note: after i chose my prefered colors, i always disable the header/menu to make the player more simple. You can turn on/off too many other features from preferences or plain config text.

Other colors settings:
Statusbar color background & text color is covered by GTK Theme.
Titlebar color background & text color is covered by Window Manager (WM).

Personally i'm using using a static background color for almost everything.

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1612 Post by milomak »

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1613 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

SharpBang GNU/Linux running with sysvinit as PID1:

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And again but this time with runit-init as PID1:

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The only change required was to add the user to the input group but policykit-1 had to be removed so the usual shutdown & reboot exit dialogues don't work. Other than that it's all good, Debian buster does support three different init systems. Which is nice.

And here's SharpBang running with openrc-init as PID1:

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That required a bit more work — I had to copy the upstream agetty service to /etc/init.d/agetty and symlink that to create a service for each TTY:

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cd /etc/init.d
# ln -s agetty agetty.tty1
# ln -s agetty agetty.tty2
Then I booted into sysvinit with OpenRC as the service manager (which is the default once the openrc package is installed), enabled the TTYs and symlinked init:

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# rc-update add agetty.tty1
# rc-update add agetty.tty2
# ln -sf /sbin/openrc-init /sbin/init
And finally rebooted into the forth init system that I have successfully tested in a Debian buster based box :D
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1614 Post by Bulkley »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:SharpBang GNU/Linux running with sysvinit as PID1: . . .
Good stuff. So, how did you do it? A couple of years ago you had a thread on alternate inits. The instructions worked well on Stretch but cause chaos in Buster. Have you considered an update?

Over here fungalnet asked, "If you really can tell us how “easy” it is to convert Debian to a different init system and erase systemd, we are open to the possibility. We dare anyone to explain it to us. Because there are many that advertise this as possible but nobody has provided detailed instructions."

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#1615 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Bulkley wrote:how did you do it?

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# apt install sysvinit-core
# gpasswd -a $user input # replace $user with the actual user name
# reboot
That's it :)
Bulkley wrote:A couple of years ago you had a thread on alternate inits. The instructions worked well on Stretch but cause chaos in Buster. Have you considered an update?
I spam the boards with so many posts that it's difficult for me to remember them all... I'll see if I can find it & update it.
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I didn't erase systemd completely, systemd-udevd is still providing the device enumeration and addition. But it certainly isn't running as init.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1616 Post by Bulkley »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Bulkley wrote:how did you do it?

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# apt install sysvinit-core
# gpasswd -a $user input # replace $user with the actual user name
# reboot

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root@debian-10:~# apt install sysvinit-core
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 dconf-service : Depends: default-dbus-session-bus or
                          dbus-session-bus
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
This is Debian 10. The same happens with SharpBang. I have dconf-service so the message makes no sense.

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#1617 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Oh yes, that's right, I used aptitude instead and that resolved the dependencies for me and removed policykit-1 in the process. Sorry for the misinformation.

Feel free to open a thread about this, it's a bit off-topic here.
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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1618 Post by Bulkley »

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As many here know, Head_on_a_Stick made a small iso out of Buster which he calls Sharpbang. It is very basic which makes it very useful for testing or as a minimal start for a build-it-yourself project. What you see here is Sharpbang after a wee bit of civilizing.

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

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Arch with Mate.

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Re: What does your non-Debian desktop look like?

#1620 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Back on Alpine Linux:

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