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Postby S1NGH » 2006-12-26 16:25

mzilikazi wrote:
S1NGH wrote:hmm... just got debian installed and wanted to go ahead with the script to install e17 but nothing happens, could you please take a care to look at this?

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s1ngh@iNSANiTY-Debian:~/Desktop$ cd Desktop
s1ngh@iNSANiTY-Debian:~/Desktop$ cd e17
s1ngh@iNSANiTY-Debian:~/Desktop/e17$ chmod 755 easy_e17.sh


what do you think could be the problem?


You did not execute the script! :)
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./easy_e17.sh

Better read the script first and see what it is about to do and where it intends to store everything pulled down from cvs.
I must warn you however that building e17 from scratch is not always an easy process. You will have to find and install ALOT of dependencies before it will build (all available through apt-get). Once you've gotten through the build process successfully your subsequent builds will be much easier.

My suggestion is to simply use the Debian repository for E17. It is always very close to cvs.


Hey thanks, looks like i havn't been awake lately, i have been installing Debian the whole night via NetInstall so i think i am just blown *comforting sigh*

well anyway, could you please guide me through this, as i have a clean install of Debian and nothing installed yet and want to get E17 up and running.
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Postby mzilikazi » 2006-12-26 16:56

If you start E17 from command line e.g. no KDM or GDM or Entrance you must use.
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startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start


DO NOT use:
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startx /usr/bin/enlightenment


Add the new repository (you can use the echo command as written below but if you have no newline at the end of sources.list it doesn't work. Of course you can simply use your favorite text editor to add the new repository):
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$ su
# echo "deb http://www.edevelop.org/debian unstable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list


Install the new key:
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# gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 03CA4243
# apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg


Update
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# apt-get update


Install E17
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# apt-get install e17 e17-extras emodules0-all


NOTE - Entrance is the E17 login manager but it sometimes get's...weird and certainly does not have all of the functionality of GDM. I use Entrance on my work machine where I am the only one that ever logs in. At home I use GDM so several people can have a desktop running at the same time.
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Postby hcgtv » 2006-12-26 17:15

mzilikazi,

Are you running Sid or Etch?

I've thought of using the Edevelop repositories on Etch but didn't know if they would work. Beats spending all the time it takes to compile E17 from scratch every few days.
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Postby S1NGH » 2006-12-26 19:21

i think mzilikazi is on Etch because the above worked for me perfectly.

Thanks again mzilikazi, really appreciated.
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Postby mzilikazi » 2006-12-26 20:30

Well I run Sid but as posted it works fine for Etch too.
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Postby garrincha » 2006-12-26 20:35

mzilikazi wrote:Well I run Sid but as posted it works fine for Etch too.


Are you saying that in order for me to install E17 in my Debian/Etch box, I need to add to my source.list:
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deb http://www.edevelop.org/debian unstable main


Using 'unstable' (or 'sid'), or do I have to change it to 'testing' ('etch')?

Also, I'm not quite clear on this:
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# apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
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Postby mzilikazi » 2006-12-26 20:53

garrincha wrote:Are you saying that in order for me to install E17 in my Debian/Etch box, I need to add to my source.list:
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deb http://www.edevelop.org/debian unstable main

Testing is there if you want to try it but it's rather old. If you want the latest greatest use the sid repo and add the line to sources.list as is.

Also, I'm not quite clear on this:
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# apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
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man apt-key
DESCRIPTION
       apt-key is used to manage the list of keys used by apt to authenticate
       packages. Packages which have been authenticated using these keys will
       be considered trusted.


If you like a GUI for apt-key you can do:
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$ su
# apt-get install gui-apt-key
# gui-apt-key


It's in testing & unstable anyway.
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Postby hcgtv » 2006-12-26 20:55

mzilikazi wrote:Well I run Sid but as posted it works fine for Etch too.

I'll have to give it a try then, thanks.
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Postby garrincha » 2006-12-26 21:12

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Thanks. I do have E16 installed. So I'll give this a try to get the E17.

Edit: I just installed E17 (on my old disk - the one I use to make and break). I have to say, "wow" is an understatement. E17 is indeed much better than E16. At first glance, E17 seems to be slightly "bloated" but it is not and it is quite fast amazingly.
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Postby mzilikazi » 2006-12-26 22:52

garrincha wrote: E17 is indeed much better than E16. At first glance, E17 seems to be slightly "bloated" but it is not and it is quite fast amazingly.


Just keep a spare window manager around for those times when it suddenly goes alpha on you. ;)
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Postby garrincha » 2006-12-27 01:35

mzilikazi wrote:
garrincha wrote: E17 is indeed much better than E16. At first glance, E17 seems to be slightly "bloated" but it is not and it is quite fast amazingly.


Just keep a spare window manager around for those times when it suddenly goes alpha on you. ;)


Actually I installed E17 on the old second disk drive. In any case, I usually use fluxbox in my current linux box and occasionally E16. I'll just experiment with E17 though.

By the way, I'll check later but does the E17 allows for menu update/regeneration? I also have fluxbox installed in the same linux box as E17 but it is not showing my debian menu for example in E17.
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Postby mzilikazi » 2006-12-27 04:53

garrincha wrote:By the way, I'll check later but does the E17 allows for menu update/regeneration? I also have fluxbox installed in the same linux box as E17 but it is not showing my debian menu for example in E17.


The Debian menu is supposed to work but my personal experience is that it does so only sometimes. Not sure why that happens. My solution was to simply put my most frequently used apps on the ibar, customize my menu and use the very excellent run dialog. Check it out!
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Postby S1NGH » 2006-12-27 05:27

Alright, back again.

I got everything to work and i customized it to the way i wanted it to work and look, so i changed themes and login theme, so now i can't login with my normal account into enlightenment and i tried changing the environment to Gnome, but that too didn't help, although i can log in with root.

So it there a way i can reset the settings for enlightenment with my other user account? Right now i am locked out and only able to login with root with any environment whereas i can't with the other account.
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Postby mzilikazi » 2006-12-27 05:38

S1NGH wrote:Alright, back again.

I got everything to work and i customized it to the way i wanted it to work and look, so i changed themes and login theme, so now i can't login with my normal account into enlightenment and i tried changing the environment to Gnome, but that too didn't help, although i can log in with root.

So it there a way i can reset the settings for enlightenment with my other user account? Right now i am locked out and only able to login with root with any environment whereas i can't with the other account.


What login manager? Try this:
Switch to a VT
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CTRL+ALT+F1

Log in as root and stop your login manager:
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/etc/init.d/gdm stop

Now su to your user
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su <username>

Start E17 from command line:
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startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start


If you can start E17 this way then the problem must lie with your login manager.
If you're using Entrance I would suggest switching back to GDM or KDM or whatever you prefer.
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Postby S1NGH » 2006-12-27 06:07

hey thanks again mzilikazi!

it worked but i had to also key in the following commands:

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/etc/init.d/entrance stop


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