Telemachus wrote:A quick trick: I run both Iceweasel 126.96.36.199 and Firefox 3.5, and if you aren't careful they will screw up each other's profiles and preferences. So create two profiles, and change the startup commands in your menus to look like this:iceweasel --no-remote -P telemachus
/opt/firefox/firefox --no-remote -P achilles
Your profile names and the location of your Firefox may vary
The -P option allows you to pick the profile you want to use, and the --no-remote option tells the browser not to connect to a "running" Iceweasel or Firefox. That allows you to run both browsers at one time and still keep your preferences clean.
For the record, though, I pretty much never open Iceweasel any more.
b-o wrote:If you do not use Iceweasel simultaneously, deinstall it and you can add a Ubuntu repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list and install firefox3 via packagemanager. Works great.
EMD wrote:Are you crazy? !!! NEVER mix Ubuntu and Debian repositories.
If you really want to install Firefox 3 using APT, then get it from Debian's experimental repositories.
Here's what you would do. Add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental main
# apt-get update
# apt-get install -t experimental icewease
b-o wrote:With iceweasel installed, the gecko engine crashed 3 times in 10 minutes. I did not face such issues with the newest firefox, even though they should not be very different.
Brian McKenna wrote:5 Reasons to Support IceWeasel
- Debian doesn’t have to meet the unreasonable
Mozilla can’t be blamed for wanting to keep their trademarks so they also can’t be blamed for wanting to review all Debian’s custom patches. Problem is that it’s just too much of a trouble for Debian and it’s against their social contract. Debian applies lots of patches so that Firefox is better suited to the Debian environment, this is only a good thing.
- It’s an improved Firefox
Firefox is great, there’s no doubt about it. What could make Firefox better? Getting its only problems fixed! So far there have been two privacy improvements. I can’t see any reason why anyone would be against having an improved Firefox.
- It’s completely free
IceWeasel removes the unfree artwork and plugins. This gives everyone the freedom to modify, distribute and use any part of IceWeasel - an improvement on Firefox.
- It’s important for GNU
GNU can’t just throw away Mozilla’s mostly free software and not take advantage of it by stripping it of the non-free stuff and distributing a fully free browser. It takes a short amount of time to make and maintain IceWeasel and it makes a good stand for free software. Every step is still a step to completing GNU and the FSF’s job(s). They need to keep it up.
- IceWeasel looks and sounds good
Give me IceWeasel over Firefox anyday. Oh, you use Firefox? That sucks! IceWeasel is so much better. See, the name alone will make people want to switch from whatever the hell they’re using.
b-o wrote:EMD wrote:Are you crazy? !!! NEVER mix Ubuntu and Debian repositories.
I kind of expected such reaction. No intent to hijack this thread, but since we raised this topic: I know there might be some trouble with that. But why is it -that- bad?
.Telemachus wrote:Just to clarify my previous post: libc6 is a system requirement, so it's not that having libc6 is bad. Here's its description from "aptitude show libc6"Description: GNU C Library: Shared libraries
Contains the standard libraries that are used by nearly all programs on the
system. This package includes shared versions of the standard C library and the
standard math library, as well as many others.
The thing is that when a part of your system as basic as libc6 gets moved up to the Sid/Unstable level then it can tend to drag other parts with it. And if your gcc gets moved up, for example, then you can have trouble with modules since the kernel will want modules built with the same gcc that built the kernel. People often think, "I will just upgrade this one program to Sid and then keep everything else in Etch," but for this sort of reason it can cause problems. (Problems are not inevitable but they can happen.)
EMD wrote:If you really want to install Firefox 3 using APT, then get it from Debian's experimental repositories.
skilaatara wrote:EMD wrote:If you really want to install Firefox 3 using APT, then get it from Debian's experimental repositories.
Thanks for spelling out the method so explicitly. This won't create dependency problems, though?
skilaatara wrote:The reason I'm looking for an APT way to get FF3 is because when I try to download Mozilla plugins from the Testing repository (for the FF3 I downloaded and installed in /opt), the package manager refuses due to the lack of Iceweasel.
skilaatara wrote:Regarding Iceweasel/Firefox differences: would the Iceweasel in Experimental be any less stable than Mozilla's FF3 release candidate?