Iceweasel 3 Is Not cutting It!

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Iceweasel 3 Is Not cutting It!

Postby Deja-Vu » 2009-03-17 00:28

Is there a way i can go back to iceweasel 2.x in the new release of lenny? This new smart bar in 3.0.6 is is a huge anoyance.
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Postby bugsbunny » 2009-03-17 00:33

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Re: Iceweasel 3 Is Not cutting It!

Postby Telemachus » 2009-03-17 00:35

Deja-Vu wrote:This new smart bar in 3.0.6 is is a huge anoyance.

Then turn it off. (If you search in the forum for posts about Iceweasel 3, there are excellent links that describe how to kill the awesomely awful bar.)
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Postby Deja-Vu » 2009-03-17 00:41

[quote="bugsbunny"]Firefox 3: Disable The "Smart" Location Bar (Sort Of) | PCMech[/quot

I do not want to disable it nor do i want to hide it. If i cant fix i'll go back to 2.x or some other browser.
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Postby bugsbunny » 2009-03-17 00:46

Disabling it does "fix" it. Did you even look at the link?
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Postby Telemachus » 2009-03-17 00:52

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Postby Deja-Vu » 2009-03-17 00:53

bugsbunny wrote:Disabling it does "fix" it. Did you even look at the link?


Yes and its the same thing firefox says do but they also say that it does not make it act like the 2.x and thats not my only issue with the 3.0.6. Memory imprints exceed 250k in the 3.0 series and only 90k to 155k in the 2.x series. Other things like the bookmarks do not work like 2.x and neither does the actual history search when turning these things off. There are series of other little quirks i dislike/distrust about it.
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Postby craigevil » 2009-03-17 01:42

So try using Seamonkey, Opera, Epiphany, or Midori.

For me firefox/icweasel 3 uses less ram than 2 did, and from what I understand will use even less. Not to mention gets security fixes and I am not sure if does.

99% of the things firefox 3 does can be disabled so it works just like 2.0.

/* Fix the font layout */
user_pref("layout.css.dpi", 0);

/* Hide the Go button */
user_pref("browser.urlbar.hideGoButton", true);

/* Get rid of the ugly gtk file picker */
user_pref("ui.allow_platform_file_picker", false);

/* Set backspace key to go to previous page */
user_pref("browser.backspace_action", 0);

/* Block 3rd party cookies */
user_pref("network.cookie.cookieBehavior", 1);

// Turn that annoying autocomplete popup REALLY off:
// (This actually has a UI but it's buried.)
user_pref("browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled", false);
user_pref("browser.urlbar.showPopup", false);
user_pref("browser.urlbar.showSearch", false);

/* Disable network prefetching/search engine suggest */
user_pref("network.prefetch-next", false);
user_pref("browser.search.suggest.enabled", false);

/* Put an end to blinking text! */
user_pref("browser.blink_allowed", false);
user_pref("browser.display.show_image_placeholders", false);

/* Disable Find As You Type */
user_pref ("accessibility.typeaheadfind", false);

/* Disable image animation */
user_pref("image.animation_mode", "none");

/* Disable scrolling marquees */
user_pref("browser.display.enable_marquee", false);
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Postby Deja-Vu » 2009-03-17 03:06

Telemachus wrote:Another good link with lots of fixes for Iceweasel 3: http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/configure-firefox-iceweasel-3-to-be-more-secure-usable-bearable


GREAT! thanks for this link. Now that i have my testing done i can build files to update our workstations at work.
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Postby BioTube » 2009-03-17 14:35

However, you will never get memory usage down to 2.x levels unless Mozilla provides a way to turn off that damn SQLite database. Even if that's unimportant, the required wait betwixt closing FF3 and opening it again is ridiculous - and "places" doesn't offer anything useful.
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Postby bugsbunny » 2009-03-17 15:05

The big problem there is that it stores too much data in the db. You can restrict that and force it to drop old history (default is 180 days). There's 2 things that impact memory usage etc.
1) entries in the sqlite db's.
2) extensions loaded

To get the history (and memory usage) down to more reasonable levels there's a number of entries you can change in about:config

browser.history_expire_days
This entry tells it the maximum days that should be kept. Any entries older than this will get deleted.

browser.history_expire_days.mirror
This should be set to the same value as browser.history_expire_days

browser.history_expire_days_min
This is the minimum number of days that history is kept and is used to prevent premature culling, for whatever reason. This corresponds to the ui setting in preferences|privacy History "Keep my history for at least __ days" (Note the "at least" in that statement).

browser.history_expire_sites
Upper cap on the number of websites to store in history. Default is 40000

After cutting down the max numbers it may take some time for things to reset and actually delete the old entries., but you should definitely see things kick in within 24 hours. Logging out and back in may help as well. I'm just not sure how it determines when it should check and clear the old entries. It may even happen on browser restart, or it may be a once a day check.
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Postby mase » 2009-03-17 15:10

You could also put the db into a ramdisk:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-717117.html
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Postby Telemachus » 2009-03-17 17:03

I was wondering what BioTube meant - since my performance on IW/FF 3 is very good, not sluggish, no startup slowness, etc. - but now I see.

The Gentoo solution is very Gentoo - tons of careful thought, well documented, efficient, and a lot of labor.

Here's my solution: turn off all history keeping, all tracking of what you type in the bars (search, address), turn off awesome bar completely. It takes two minutes to adjust about:config, and I'm done forever. No loop-back filesystem in /tmp.
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Postby Deja-Vu » 2009-03-17 18:47

Telemachus wrote:I was wondering what BioTube meant - since my performance on IW/FF 3 is very good, not sluggish, no startup slowness, etc. - but now I see.

The Gentoo solution is very Gentoo - tons of careful thought, well documented, efficient, and a lot of labor.

Here's my solution: turn off all history keeping, all tracking of what you type in the bars (search, address), turn off awesome bar completely. It takes two minutes to adjust about:config, and I'm done forever. No loop-back filesystem in /tmp.


As that sqlite grows the slower the browser gets. I have no clue why firefox would want to do this. It's microsoft textbook and i switched to linux to get away from the plague. I did find the browser.css but its basically the same as useChrome.css. Im seriously thinking of reverse engineering it to fit what i want. I guess thats legal since they claim its open source.
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Postby jtodd » 2009-03-17 22:20

mase wrote:You could also put the db into a ramdisk:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-717117.html

That's what I do, and it works pretty well.
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