lenny finds to low a resolution

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lenny finds to low a resolution

Postby dreuzel » 2009-03-18 07:54

I'm strugling to setup an s3 Virge MX video, where I seem to be stuck on 800x600 resolution. in Win98 and Debian Etch I was able to work in resolution 1024x700 wich is more adequate.

Is it possible to increase the max resolution abowe what lenny finds ?
It certainly was possible changing Xorg.conf in etch, but now lenny ignores the changes made.


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Postby edbarx » 2009-03-18 08:16

I suggest you to boot as Single User [Root] and run this command:
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dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

Then, reboot:
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reboot
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Postby karthikrg » 2009-03-18 09:30

Else you can try forcing a resolution and refresh rate in the Monitor section of your xorg.conf (add it if it doesnt exist already) to override the default settings
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Postby BioTube » 2009-03-18 14:32

edbarx wrote:I suggest you to boot as Single User [Root] and run this command:
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dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

Then, reboot:
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reboot
There's no need to reboot from single-user mode(or any other) for a change to X. Just
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init 2
from single-user or CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE from X itself.
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Postby edbarx » 2009-03-18 21:42

BioTube wrote:There's no need to reboot from single-user mode(or any other) for a change to X. Just
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init 2
from single-user or CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE from X itself.


I reboot for security reasons because in Single User mode I am ROOT and I do not want to run X as root.
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Postby BioTube » 2009-03-19 01:30

Changing runlevels logs you off.
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Postby dreuzel » 2009-03-20 07:27

did the reconfig , nothing changed considering resolution
no resolution reference in the monitoring section
how does that formulate ? keyword +space + qouted resolution ?

The user interface lenny does not allow a higher setting then 800x600
previous debian and win98 went up to 1024x700
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lenny finds to low a resolution ? no solution? no bypass ?

Postby dreuzel » 2009-03-21 22:30

In etch there was a bypass for the os finding to tow a resolution
is there something like that in the chainged lenny ?
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Postby Lou » 2009-03-22 14:17

Ok, IMHO, the Debian devs fucked up again.

They assume if your hardware is OK there is no need to manually configure. So if you have a buggy video driver or if the default resolution is not what you need, something is wrong with you.

I have a buggy video driver (SiS) and my resolution is too high, can i change it manually? NO!

Can i changed it with 'dpkg-reconfigure -phign -xserver-xorg' as in the past? Of course, NO!

The powers that be will not allow it, they know everything that matters with my box, so i'm outta luck. They should have the package 'xorgconfig' for us dummies with old cheap hardware.

I googled for an Etch xorg.conf example, being Etch the last version that allows to configure manually or with dpkg-reconfigure xorg-dev.

I pasted the parts about my video driver, which i changed to 'vesa' and the resolution to 1024x768, the frequencies of my monitor and the color depth to 16 instead of 24, i also wanted my screen to go blank in 3 minutes; then i saved/exit/logged out/logged in and everything was OK.

FWIW, here's my /etc/X11/xorg.conf in Sid:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "es"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "SiS"
Driver "vesa"
BusID ""
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Generic Monitor"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 31-70
VertRefresh 50-160
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "SiS"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
Option "StandbyTime" "3" # Turn off screen in 3 minutes (DPMS)
Option "OffTime" "15" # Turn off DPMS monitor (DPMS)
EndSection
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Re: lenny finds to low a resolution

Postby Issyer » 2009-03-22 14:55

dreuzel wrote:Is it possible to increase the max resolution abowe what lenny finds ?


No. Unless you install a better driver like nvidia, etc.
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Postby debianuser01 » 2009-03-22 14:57

Lou wrote:Ok, IMHO, the Debian devs fucked up again.
[...]
I have a buggy video driver (SiS) and my resolution is too high, can i changed it manually? NO!

Can i change it with 'dpkg-reconfigure -phign -xserver-xorg' as in the past? Of course, NO!

The powers that be will not allow it, they know everything that matters with my box, so i'm outta luck. They should have the package 'xorgconfig' for us the dummies with old cheap hardware.

I googled for an Etch xorg.config example, being Etch the last version that allows to configure manually or with dpkg-reconfigure xorg-dev.
[...]

Lou for President. :twisted: I've had the same irritating, frustrating prob! And A LOT of people have this prob. I copied my Suse config file to Debian and voila: prob's gone. The question remains however, is it Xorg that does not include ye' ol config tools anymore, or is it Debian?

All I know is that, on the Dutch forum, the first time Linux users are driving me crazy the last couple of months. Almost all of them use Ubuntu (= Debian based), due to 'Buntu's marketing madness. However, none of them seem to be able to configure their videocard/monitor the Windows or Suse/Yast way. None of the old solutions that I always use, which you mention in your post, work anymore for them. Is it Debian that stepped away from the configure tools, or Xorg itself? A lot of these usefull tools are still mentioned on the Xorg help site here.

Whats the matter?
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Re: lenny finds to low a resolution

Postby fsmithred » 2009-03-22 18:37

Issyer wrote:
dreuzel wrote:Is it possible to increase the max resolution abowe what lenny finds ?


No. Unless you install a better driver like nvidia, etc.


Yes there is. I was able to do it on a machine that uses a Radeon 9200SE. Lenny autoconfigured and gave me 1024x768, then I edited xorg.conf to add ati driver (which I think it was already using), HorzSync and VertRefresh and some modes that included 1280x1024.
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Re: lenny finds to low a resolution

Postby Issyer » 2009-03-22 19:06

fsmithred wrote:
Issyer wrote:
dreuzel wrote:Is it possible to increase the max resolution abowe what lenny finds ?


No. Unless you install a better driver like nvidia, etc.


Yes there is. I was able to do it on a machine that uses a Radeon 9200SE. Lenny autoconfigured and gave me 1024x768, then I edited xorg.conf to add ati driver (which I think it was already using), HorzSync and VertRefresh and some modes that included 1280x1024.


I meant bigger than the one xrandr shows for the particular driver.
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Postby debianuser01 » 2009-03-23 12:53

Is it Debian that stepped away from the configure tools, or Xorg itself?
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Postby Eck » 2009-03-24 18:22

It's xorg. Most is automatically detected now. When resolution doesn't satisfy, we're supposed to use xrandr (or the grandr GUI tool for easier configuration) to adjust it.

Mine wasn't right at initial Lenny RC2 install. I installed grandr and used that. Once used, the KDE and Gnome display properties then listed what I had set with grandr as my default resolution, with all the others available as well.

So I think grandr (or xrandr from the terminal) is a permanent way, and something like the Krandrtray can be used for a temporary (this session) change on the fly.
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