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Randicus wrote:That is because in theory eating the fly will increase the speed of digestion by two seconds.

Garçon! Garçon! There's a systemd in my soup!

Yeah, such a shill. I'm not the one working hard to destroy Debian's reputation, in spite of the fact that Debian has not broken ANY of its promises. Systemd may be x . Debian may be y for having it as default. My point and my only point is why do you hang around to pour hate on something you no lo...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^The die hard shill, minstrels will write songs about you, and play their flutes as the dance down the forest path, singing your praises.

You don't get corporate-ware creep and you never will.

There is no opt out, if you use Debian you are forced to use systemd I am using Debian, without systemd, so that is completely not true. Ooo boy, that is not 100% accurate either, please prove to us there is ABSOLUTELY not a trace of ANY systemd files or shims or whatever on that system. No logind,...

The systemd-shim has been developed to allow applications that have systemd dependencies to run with other init systems. It's not Debian who are dictating this necessity, they are merely providing a solution for users who do not feel systemd is appropriate for their set ups. Holy wow, AGAIN, arrrrr...

Systemd is categorically not proprietary. Don't make stuff up. Debian broke their own constitution and rules No they didn't. Details or it didn't happen. I've read Dasein's post so don't bother linking to that. Nebulous third parties who "leave" Debian means nothing unless you can provide...

You're entirely missing the point. Debian has no moral obligation and no free software obligation not to use systemd. No, you are missing the point, Debian broke their own constitution and rules by going with a proprietary (huge and bloated) piece of software that caused dependency hell and lock-in...

Ok fair enough but given Debian's vocation of integrating free and open source software into a distribution, can anyone say how including systemd (published under the GPL) as default contradicts that? What is Debian not doing today that it previously did? For starters, developers will have to make ...

@Sarge-in-charge, a certain Debhat defender in this thread (the math is easy, I can't name it directly) is a gullible, loyal, blind sheep that can't be reasoned with. It is the kind of person that sits idly by while its government turns fascist. For some reason it appointed itself defender of this o...

The writing is on the wall, lol, people will go back to the old way of doing things when they have to, I wonder what 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 looks like in smoke signals. :shock: :D http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/8888-the-four-digits-that-could-thwart-australias-antipiracy-websiteblo...

Or are you going to call the demonstration a hoax, like the moon landings? :) See what you started?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3jrLXkuKcw Sure is a lot of fishy facts surrounding the so-called moon landing. I've always thought it was just a little too easy. The landing makes for great propag...

Although this thread has turned in to a "vee vill defendt zyztemdee aht ennee kosst!" fest, these are a few interesting reads, read the 4th line down in the wiki link, apparently if you question systemd, Lennart says you are an "asshole" (he goes on to blame dissent on almost eve...

I see where I went wrong, this was about Go gg le's spyware sneaking under the noses of Debian devs, I simply mentiioned systemd because it is potentially a huge attack surface, and if Go gg le's garbage can sneak past Debian's devs, then what's stopping any unwanted $#1+ in systemd getting past, is...

I think you people are freaked because Debhat is collapsing in to a pile of mushy $#1+ right before your eyes Debian is doing fine. No it's not, the release of Jessie was paltry and weak, I watched the sad 'party' on Twitter unfold, including Microsoft throwing a party for them, cake and all, now i...

Wow, and you people say I have a tinfoil hat, lol, now video firmware has spyware (or a spyware installer?), umm, OK. As for blathering on about systemd, I still don't see how anybody can trust a huge overbearing secretive blob, let alone have it take over your whole OS, each to their own. FYI, I di...

Interesting! So that card doesn't need firmware-linux-nonfree to get 3D acceleration? What does this have to do with Go gg le sneaking spyware on to your computer AFTER the main package is installed, and the former whooshing right over the heads of the Debhat devs? In all honesty I thought you mean...

As for sad little Johnny come latelys, you just joined a month ago? Have you made any financial donations, bug reports, anything to Debhat? In Linux and Debhat years terms, you should at least grow some fuzz on your tiny little sack before rubbing my rhubarb. Why do you assume a new forum account b...

AMD FX-8350, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 (rev. 4.0), 2x120GB SATA 3 SSDs, 2 storage HDDs, 2x8GB Kingston HyperX Fury DDR3, Radeon R7 250, Thermaltake V3 Black AMD Edition case I am NOT part of the systemd Borg collective, Lennart is NOT my God. d:^P Don't you have to install horrible CLOSED-source firmw...

^What does systemd have to do with Chromium? And who are you exactly that your excitable nudge nudge wink wink bad-mouthing of Debian should be taken seriously? You're like the Sun newspaper in the UK where articles have inflammatory eye-catching headlines that don't match the actual stories they p...