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Standard system utilities

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crhawkins
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Standard system utilities

#1 Post by crhawkins »

Hi, quick question that has always been on the back of my mind.

Is there ever a reason not to check Standard system utilities? I mean is this unadvised in 99% of installations?

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Re: Standard system utilities

#2 Post by admoore »

The packages installed by that task can be seen by running this command:

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aptitude search ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant -F%p
If you're really trying to crunch Debian into a tiny space, you can probably skip it, but you'll probably end up installing a lot of those things explicitly to get a functional system.

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Re: Standard system utilities

#3 Post by GPWR »

admoore wrote: 2013-12-09 21:04 The packages installed by that task can be seen by running this command:

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aptitude search ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant -F%p
If you're really trying to crunch Debian into a tiny space, you can probably skip it, but you'll probably end up installing a lot of those things explicitly to get a functional system.
If I don't install the standard system utilities, will I still be able to connect to the internet and download a desktop environment, along with the utilities that come with it?

How much space do the system utilities take up?

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Re: Standard system utilities

#4 Post by bw123 »

This has been asked and discussed many times, for example:

viewtopic.php?t=118372

I’ve never seen it officially documented. You could do an install without, then run tasksel again and compare for pkgs and size difference.
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#5 Post by GPWR »

bw123 wrote: 2021-12-02 19:23 This has been asked and discussed many times, for example: viewtopic.php?t=118372
I see. Thank you for the resource. I had searched the forums for all posts having "standard system utilities" as part of their title, but this thread is the only one that popped up.
bw123 wrote: 2021-12-02 19:23 I’ve never seen it officially documented. You could do an install without, then run tasksel again and compare for pkgs and size difference.
Oof. I'll leave that to someone else. I would like to start by having my system work first (having a lot of newbie issues.) Good call, though. I might try it in the future.

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#6 Post by bw123 »

I'm not sure exim or another MTA is standard anymore, or rsyslog, mlocate, text mode mail, or even ifupdown... but there's surely good stuff in there. Used to be a text mode browser for documentation/faqs, man page utils and info documentation. reportbug might be in there or some of the debian alternatives system. And some math/science stuff like bc,

If you're not setting up a lean machine or a server you probably need it all.

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