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Can't install on native uefi

#1 Post by Kenshin Himura »

Is there anyone outhere who can inform me why i cant install the Debian on native uefi? I mean installation proceeds and finishes but when i try to boot i get a black screen with a white line up left. What's this?

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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#2 Post by Bloom »

That means the UEFI system can't find any valid boot partition on your drive.
Without more information about your system and how that drive is used, we can't offer anymore assistance.
Furthermore, some computer manufacturers have the UEFI-system hardcoded searching for 'Windows Boot Manager' and refuse to boot if it can't find it. For such a computer, it may not be possible to use Linux on it.

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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#3 Post by Kenshin Himura »

Bloom wrote:That means the UEFI system can't find any valid boot partition on your drive.
Without more information about your system and how that drive is used, we can't offer anymore assistance.
Furthermore, some computer manufacturers have the UEFI-system hardcoded searching for 'Windows Boot Manager' and refuse to boot if it can't find it. For such a computer, it may not be possible to use Linux on it.
What information exactly you need? The laptop is the c340 14api with 3500u. It came with windows 10 home OEM.

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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#4 Post by Bloom »

That's a Levono system with detachable tablet. You need to install the Debian release WITH closed non-free firmware to get this to work. Furthermore, I recommend entering the system UEFI menu and disabling Secure Boot.
Use http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimag ... rent-live/
or
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unoff ... ve-builds/

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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#5 Post by Kenshin Himura »

Bloom wrote:That's a Levono system with detachable tablet. You need to install the Debian release WITH closed non-free firmware to get this to work. Furthermore, I recommend entering the system UEFI menu and disabling Secure Boot.
Use http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimag ... rent-live/
or
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unoff ... ve-builds/
Thank you for responding so quickly. The testing version for some reason can't run on my laptop, while it boots in live, if i try to install either throught calamr or graphic it gives me multiple errors and fails. Right now I'm writing an iso of non free with dd command and i ll try to install it. Do you know of they usb must be in specific format or the dd command format it automatically?

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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#6 Post by Kenshin Himura »

Bloom wrote:That's a Levono system with detachable tablet. You need to install the Debian release WITH closed non-free firmware to get this to work. Furthermore, I recommend entering the system UEFI menu and disabling Secure Boot.
Use http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimag ... rent-live/
or
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unoff ... ve-builds/
Still getting the same problem. And o cant upload for some reason images here to show you my bios settings...

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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#7 Post by Kenshin Himura »

Bloom wrote:That's a Levono system with detachable tablet. You need to install the Debian release WITH closed non-free firmware to get this to work. Furthermore, I recommend entering the system UEFI menu and disabling Secure Boot.
Use http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimag ... rent-live/
or
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unoff ... ve-builds/
I don't get it... I managed to install xfce testing nonfree thought calamar Installer... In graphical Installer it fails just like with gnome... What's going on? Any thoughts?

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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#8 Post by Bloom »

Please try the stable version first. I don't recommend using Testing unless you're experienced and know what you're doing.

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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#9 Post by Kenshin Himura »

Bloom wrote:Please try the stable version first. I don't recommend using Testing unless you're experienced and know what you're doing.
Ok Brother

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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#10 Post by Kenshin Himura »

Bloom wrote:Please try the stable version first. I don't recommend using Testing unless you're experienced and know what you're doing.
Unfortunately Debian stable xfce failed to boot up...

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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#11 Post by Bloom »

Did you try the one with the non-free firmware?

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#12 Post by Kenshin Himura »

Bloom wrote:Did you try the one with the non-free firmware?
Of course Brother. The links you sent me. It failed to boot just like gnome. Right now I'm downloading kde stable to check it out, if it also fails, I'm starting to believe that testing has an implement feature for uefi native; or its for newer hardware; Literally don't know.

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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#13 Post by Kenshin Himura »

Bloom wrote:Did you try the one with the non-free firmware?
Kde stable also failed in native uefi. I think I'm forced to use testing.

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#14 Post by Kenshin Himura »

More feedback. Xfce testing while being on live usb working nicely, the same after the first boot if you install it. If you reboot the pc its going crazy with screen tearing etc. I installed cinnamon testing and even after a reboot it seems to work. Let's see.

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#15 Post by stevepusser »

On either a Live session or a working Cinnamon desktop, can you pleeeeeeeaaaase install inxi and give us the results of "inxi -Fxxz" in the terminal, so we have some idea of what hardware we have to deal with?
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#16 Post by Kenshin Himura »

stevepusser wrote:On either a Live session or a working Cinnamon desktop, can you pleeeeeeeaaaase install inxi and give us the results of "inxi -Fxxz" in the terminal, so we have some idea of what hardware we have to deal with?
Here you are Brother

System:
Host: justicia-pc Kernel: 5.3.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 9.2.1 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.2.4 wm: muffin dm: LightDM
Distro: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 81N6 v: Lenovo IdeaPad C340-14API
serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 v: Lenovo IdeaPad C340-14API
serial: <filter>
Mobo: LENOVO model: LNVNB161216 v: SDK0J40700 WIN serial: <filter>
UEFI: LENOVO v: AGCN23WW(V1.06) date: 08/26/2019
Battery:
ID-1: BAT1 charge: 45.0 Wh condition: 45.0/45.0 Wh (100%) volts: 17.5/15.4
model: LENOVO PABAS0241231 serial: <filter> status: Full
CPU:
Topology: Quad Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 3500U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx
bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen+ rev: 1 L1 cache: 384 KiB
L2 cache: 2048 KiB L3 cache: 4096 KiB
flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
bogomips: 33536
Speed: 1131 MHz min/max: 1400/2100 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1131 2: 1125
3: 1696 4: 1696 5: 1129 6: 1130 7: 1130 8: 1126
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Picasso vendor: Lenovo driver: amdgpu v: kernel
bus ID: 04:00.0 chip ID: 1002:15d8
Display: server: X.Org 1.20.6 driver: amdgpu,ati
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: AMD RAVEN (DRM 3.33.0 5.3.0-2-amd64 LLVM 9.0.0)
v: 4.5 Mesa 19.2.6 direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: AMD Raven/Raven2/Fenghuang HDMI/DP Audio vendor: Lenovo
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 04:00.1 chip ID: 1002:15de
Device-2: AMD Raven/Raven2/FireFlight/Renoir Audio Processor
vendor: Lenovo driver: N/A bus ID: 04:00.5 chip ID: 1022:15e2
Device-3: AMD Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel bus ID: 04:00.6 chip ID: 1022:15e3
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.0-2-amd64
Network:
Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
vendor: Lenovo driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel bus ID: 02:00.0
chip ID: 168c:0042
IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros type: USB driver: btusb bus ID: 3-2:3
chip ID: 0cf3:e500
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 9.05 GiB (1.9%)
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: MZVLB512HAJQ-000L2
size: 476.94 GiB speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter>
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 459.50 GiB used: 9.05 GiB (2.0%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.80 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 49.9 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 49 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
Processes: 223 Uptime: 1h 30m Memory: 5.81 GiB used: 1.13 GiB (19.5%)
Init: systemd v: 244 runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 9.2.1 alt: 9 Shell: bash
v: 5.0.11 running in: mlterm inxi: 3.0.37

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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#17 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Is the non-free firmware required by your graphics chip installed? The non-free installer does not install it automatically.

See also http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=142974

EDIT: shit, that's 3rd genration Ryzen. You need a newer kernel & graphics stack as well: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=139003

Or use Arch instead.
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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#18 Post by Kenshin Himura »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Is the non-free firmware required by your graphics chip installed? The non-free installer does not install it automatically.

See also http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=142974

EDIT: shit, that's 3rd genration Ryzen. You need a newer kernel & graphics stack as well: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=139003

Or use Arch instead.
Thanks for answering <3. I didnt get any message for graphics driver, im trying right now to install league of legends to play and see what fps i get. Im right now on gnome DE, do you believe i should look for something else? The fans are starting many times thought the use speacially during youtube video, i saw something about gpu acceleration and that its not activated by the box in many distros, is that the problem? So i execute your commands? Sorry for making so many questions but im newbie and i want really to make debian work, im not gonna change it even if it doesnt work at 100% but i wanna support it. Also when i try to update i get this error

E: The repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates Release' does not have a Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.


why is that?

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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#19 Post by Kenshin Himura »

@stevepusser wasnt the info enough for any assistance?

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Re: Can't install on native uefi

#20 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Kenshin Himura wrote:So i execute your commands?
No, I missed the bit where you said you're running bullseye. That should support your hardware as long as the non-free firmware is installed.

The development branches are somewhat prone to breakage though, I wouldn't really recommend them for newcomers.
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