mardybear wrote:PS. Sorry about the rant way earlier in this thread somewhere. Yes i understand the free software concept, my frustration was directed towards Debian's management of the systemd situation.
Rant? What rant? If you want rants, try the Debian-devel or Debian-user mailing lists! Plenty there
No, those are cries for reason, not rants, as far as the majority of those who want to, say, as the title says:
Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2 ... 00308.html
I thought 'mor' gave the best answer to that post as mor often does.
No. Technically speaking, yes those are GNU. But in reality, no.
My concern is the language being used and the way that makes it harder to focus on the technical issues (modularity, attack surface for exploits, difficulty or ease for upstream projects to remain init-agnostic &c, mudballing of subsystems - not just systemd by any means on that one).
The musl dev's Rich Felker's concerns. Let's wait for anyone to plausibly rebuff those. Will be: never.
But I'm late to (try to) write on these topics, because I have fallen depressed. I'm not joking. This line:
Code: Select all
Built-in support for GnuTLS, GTK+ 3, ImageMagick, SELinux, and Libxml2.
on Richard Stallman's Emacs site:
(take notice of the SELinux there) is what ended my trust in Richard.
I saw that line thanks to the discussion on:
Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04 ... ment-33217
where you can read that and even about suspicion, legitimate, as far as I get it, on GNU Hurd.
I won't call this OS that I put my hopes in, from now on GNU/Linux anymore. I'll try and call it SchLinux, by the Schmoogle the NSA's best friend Google that our dear leader Torvalds is so cheerfully hobnobbing with.
I have to recover from my broken dreams.
I would like not to belive that RMS would support SELinux, but it's there.
And who can deny that "Google and Red Hat pay his travel expenses" from:
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04 ... ment-33251
IgnorantGuru wrote:Last I spoke with RMS, he was still deeply in love with GNOME and Red Hat, even though I clearly explained the GNOME3 fiasco – I get the impression he’s a fraud (and coming from MIT, that’s easy to believe – Recruitment University).
But no! IgnorantGuru, thanks for your efforts, if you'll ever (later, you've been taking a break for some months now) be reading this. He was not a fraud. He started honestly!
The whole GNU is merely there to ‘stall’ evolution of free tools – I’m sure they get a laugh out of his name. I wouldn’t look for help there – Google and Red Hat pay his travel expenses.