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for some of the rude people here

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Debian "Code of Conduct"

Be respectful

In a project the size of Debian, inevitably there will be people with whom you may disagree, or find it difficult to cooperate. Accept that, but even so, remain respectful. Disagreement is no excuse for poor behaviour or personal attacks, and a community in which people feel threatened is not a healthy community.
Assume good faith

Debian Contributors have many ways of reaching our common goal of a free operating system which may differ from your ways. Assume that other people are working towards this goal.

Note that many of our Contributors are not native English speakers or may have different cultural backgrounds.
Be collaborative

Debian is a large and complex project; there is always more to learn within Debian. It's good to ask for help when you need it. Similarly, offers for help should be seen in the context of our shared goal of improving Debian.

When you make something for the benefit of the project, be willing to explain to others how it works, so that they can build on your work to make it even better.
Try to be concise

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Try to stay on topic, especially in discussions that are already fairly large.
Be open

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In case of problems

While this code of conduct should be adhered to by participants, we recognize that sometimes people may have a bad day, or be unaware of some of the guidelines in this code of conduct. When that happens, you may reply to them and point out this code of conduct. Such messages may be in public or in private, whatever is most appropriate. However, regardless of whether the message is public or not, it should still adhere to the relevant parts of this code of conduct; in particular, it should not be abusive or disrespectful. Assume good faith; it is more likely that participants are unaware of their bad behaviour than that they intentionally try to degrade the quality of the discussion.

Serious or persistent offenders will be temporarily or permanently banned from communicating through Debian's systems. Complaints should be made (in private) to the administrators of the Debian communication forum in question. To find contact information for these administrators, please see the page on Debian's organizational structure.

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Re: for some of the rude people here

#2 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

These boards are not part of the official debian.org domain so those guidelines do not apply here :P

See http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=10653 for the forum rules.
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#3 Post by debianos »

human decency does and not childish behaviour.

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Last thing: how many of you popped out of the womb coding and reading and talking and running gnu/linux? I thought so. stop all tha hubris and the cliquey thingies and either keep quiet or honestly help out and not at the most advanced level for newbies. have some empathy. you were where some of us are at some point in your life. some of you are dong debian a serious diservice

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#5 Post by golinux »

Please point to an example of what you find so dastardly and offensive. It's a reality that the world rarely bends to our preferences (though the SJW crowd is trying mightily). Coming to terms with the fact that the world doesn't revolve around "me" is an opportunity for personal growth.
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Re: for some of the rude people here

#6 Post by GarryRicketson »

I knew this would happen, but
Please point to an example of what you find so dastardly and offensive.
PLEASE Don't, but please do read the forum guidelines:

Forum guidelines. Please read before first post!
6. Do not engage in flame wars. Threads that evolve into flaming will be locked. If you feel attacked; be the better person and ignore it. The moderators are not omnipresent, so if you feel some actions need to be taken please e-mail the moderator team on team@forums.debian.net
There is also a report option, that can be used to report any post that you consider rude, or think is spam, etc.
The point is, contact a admin or moderator, if you have any problem with the way anyone responds, Like wise if you think a particular member has been rude, or mistreated you, contact a moderator or admin. Please don't start posting names and links on the public board .
From the post by debianos » 2019-03-06 18:27
Debian "Code of Conduct": Complaints should be made (in private) to the administrators of the Debian communication forum in question.
It is rather ironic this comes up, for a example, in fact just a few days ago we had somebody post a really
offensive post, something about vibrators and their girl friends,... not at all appropriate for this forum, any way, fortunately some one reported the post, and it was removed before very many people saw it.
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I do agree, it would be nice if all of us , as members of this forum made more effort to be polite, it would make the forum a more pleasant , and useful experience for everyone, however in the real world , it is a public forum and some members are not as polite as others, then there are other members that get all upset over even the littlest things, and no amount of politeness will make them happy, some take great offence when it is suggested that they try searching for answers , but that is policy and has been for a very long time:
Please Read.. What we expect you have already Done.
Partial quote:
Postby Absent Minded » 2009-11-20 15:37
Let me first welcome you to the Debian Users Forum. We hope your visit here will both help and enlighten you in your Debian experience.

We do have a few expectations of what you have done already to find your answer.1) We expect that you have used Google or another search engine to find your answer.
2) That you have searched the Man pages available on your topic.
If you don't know how you may do this, open a terminal and at the prompt enter "man topic" where "topic" represents the topic you are having trouble with.
3) Lastly, that you have tried to use the forum search feature to find help on your issue.
Any way, If anyone feels they have been treated rudely or badly , they should report the post, and explain why they feel it is rude, or inappropriate, let a moderator take care of it, instead of responding, and add fuel or food, to the offender, sadly some times we get trolls, and they do make comments deliberately intended to be taken as rude, in hopes that someone will get angry and respond, thus disrupting the topic, and starting a flame thread, it is best, if one does not like a certain post or comments, do not feed the troll, just ignore it. Thank you
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#7 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

debianos wrote:human decency does and not childish behaviour.
I am thoroughly indecent and highly childish :mrgreen:
debianos wrote:stop all tha hubris and the cliquey thingies and either keep quiet or honestly help out and not at the most advanced level for newbies.
Third option: how about you stop giving a crap about the crap other people post? It even works in real life once you get the hang of it...
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