rolling distros becoming more popular

Here you can discuss every aspect of Debian. Note: not for support requests!
User avatar
Posts: 13450
Joined: 2014-06-01 17:46
Location: /dev/chair

Re: rolling distros becoming more popular

#21 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

I can confirm that sometimes Arch doesn't boot even if you know what you're doing and follow the news page. It's not usually a huge problem for Arch users though because installing it in the first place requires that they chroot in from the live environment and install the bootloader manually so they should already have the skills required to repair it. This is also why Arch spin-offs are such a terrible idea for n00bs because they don't learn how to fix it properly.
Black Lives Matter

Debian buster-backports ISO image: for new hardware support

Posts: 1454
Joined: 2015-08-30 20:14

Re: rolling distros becoming more popular

#22 Post by Wheelerof4te »

There is a reason why Arch is so "hard" to install. Hard for Linux newbies, at least. Having it installed for you by someone else because it is "cool" is a huge disservice to both you and the Arch Linux community.

Posts: 87
Joined: 2011-09-04 09:07

Re: rolling distros becoming more popular

#23 Post by KBD47 »

I'm glad I started with Debian, because after years of distro-hopping and seeing my system continue to break and need constant fixing with other distros, I probably would have quit using Linux. Debian Stable is the main reason I still use it, and will continue to do so.

Posts: 86
Joined: 2015-06-07 14:38

Re: rolling distros becoming more popular

#24 Post by jmgibson1981 »

I went the other way. I tried rolling release for quite awhile but it was always something. Every single day something was a problem. I just lost interest in constantly fixing. Moved back to where I started, Debian and haven't looked back. I've had to backport Makemkv and snapraid from their respective Ubuntu ppas. I also use the LXD snap package. With those 3 exceptions I'm all repo based, no random compilations floating around. And the stability shows plain as day. I haven't had to fix anything in some time now. My uptimes are significantly better as well (not sure that is a good barometer).

User avatar
Posts: 409
Joined: 2014-04-30 14:04
Location: $HOME/♫♪

Re: rolling distros becoming more popular

#25 Post by Nili »

More than difficult to install Arch or similars, I think distro-rolling are difficult to maintain by frequent nature of the changes. At the end of the day Arch it is not easy distro, it is not to look more 1337 than others, It's not a joke, it's not for sleepfuls or those that afk too much.

rolling distros becoming more popular?
Well, depends, relative seems to me. Mostly we all use a laptop, desktop or virtualization box for tests, on other hand we need a stable distro for servers, daily desktop tasks, parents etc etc... I think each distro have its own piece on this large GNU/Linux plate.
Fedora (Workstation Edition)
\m/ Ijime, Dame, Zettai「イジメ、ダメ、ゼッタイ」\m/

User avatar
Posts: 1174
Joined: 2009-04-16 18:35
Location: Kristiansand, Norway
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 2 times

Re: rolling distros becoming more popular

#26 Post by Hallvor »

PCLinuxOS is by far the easiest rolling release* I have ever tried. I had almost zero problems with it back in the day.

* Very easy installation and setup
* Very good GUI tools
* Extremely easy to remaster your whole system with mylivecd
* Offers many different desktop environments
* No Systemd (for those who care)
* Very good hardware compatibility
* Developers are very active in the forum

* Probably the daftest distro name ever
* Don't care if they include non-free software
* Fewer packages than Debian (but if you need something, the developers may package it for you)

* Before anyone says it's not really a rolling release: Yes, it is a rolling release, since they only have one code branch...
Lenovo ThinkPad T440S, Intel Core i7-4600U CPU @ 2.10GHz, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD, Debian Bullseye (KDE)
Lenovo ThinkPad X240, Intel Core i5-4300U CPU @ 2.90GHz, 8 GB RAM, 120 GB SSD, Debian Bullseye (KDE)

Posts: 673
Joined: 2007-12-07 19:20
Location: albuquerque

Re: rolling distros becoming more popular

#27 Post by MALsPa »

Chrisdb wrote:I was wondering what the effect of this trend is on Debian. Are users moving away from stable distributions? Debian is still popular for servers, but what's the future with desktops Running Debian?
I dual-boot Stable and Arch, but I'm not part of any trend of users moving away from Debian. My favorite "stable" distro and my favorite "rolling-release" distro, why not enjoy both?

User avatar
Posts: 178
Joined: 2013-06-23 20:31
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 4 times

Re: rolling distros becoming more popular

#28 Post by esp7 »

Hallvor wrote:What trend? Sources, please.

I think many Debian users have followed this pattern:

1. Gets tired of Windows, starts using GNU/Linux.
2. Gets annoyed by all the "old" packages of the largest distros.
3. Moves to rolling release distro.
4. Gets annoyed by all the breakage. Just wants a system that works all the time.
5. Moves to Debian.
this perfectly sums it up :mrgreen:
ThinkPad X220: i5-2520M CPU 2.5GHz - 8GB RAM 1333 MHz - SSD 860 EVO 250GB - Debian - ME_cleaned
ThinkPad X230: i5-3320M CPU 3.3GHz - 8GB RAM 1600 MHz - SSD 860 EVO 500GB - Debian - ME_cleaned

Post Reply