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Good web browser for debian 11

#1 Post by Terminator_3420 »

Should i use firefox or google chrome? You can recommend me other browsers too.

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Re: Good web browser for debian 11

#2 Post by argentwolf »

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Re: Good web browser for debian 11

#3 Post by kedaha »

Hi,
Third-party software, like Google Chrome with its proprietary freeware license, is absolutely contrary to the rationale of Debian, which is to provide tried & tested, secure software which meets DFSG criteria, installable via apt, from its official main repository. So it's definitely not a good choice if you share Debian's goal.
Debian's firefox-esr is a pretty good choice if you ask me:

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# apt install firefox-esr
Optional:

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# apt install webext-https-everywhere webext-ublock-origin-firefox
webext-https-everywhere
Extension to force the use of HTTPS on many sites
HTTPS Everywhere is a Firefox/Iceweasel/Chromium extension produced as a
collaboration between The Tor Project and the Electronic Frontier
Foundation. It encrypts your communications with a number of major
websites.

webext-ublock-origin-firefox
lightweight and efficient ads, malware, trackers blocker (Firefox)
uBlock is a small footprint blocker for against web ads, malware, trackers,
analytics and similar invasive items.

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Re: Good web browser for debian 11

#4 Post by Bloom »

Use open source browsers only. Firefox and Chromium are fine.
Install the following add-ons or extensions:
1. uBlock Origin (for Firefox, you can also install the Debian package webext-ublock-origin-firefox as indicated above), it blocks commercials
2. Privay Badger (this blocks trackers)
3. I don't care about cookies (this answers Yes on any cookiewall in a website)
4. Cookie Autodelete (this deletes cookies if you close the tab or if the tab is dormant for more than a certain time, white/blacklisting is possible)
5. SciptSafe (Chromium) or NoScript (Firefox): these block JavaScript, very secure but not for novices as it makes the surfing experience a lot harder.

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#5 Post by craigevil »

Firefox, Chromium, Brave, Vivaldi, Palemoon, Min.

All work well.
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#6 Post by cds60601 »

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#7 Post by beyondhelp »

Hi All new here, but absolutely Firefox. It's all I used on all my machines be it windows/android/debian.

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#8 Post by Bulkley »

cds60601 wrote: 2022-01-09 16:47LibreWolf
Librewolf is looking good. Otherwise Firefox-esr with a few additions such as uBlock-Origin.

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#9 Post by Shamak »

Chromium in the official Debian repositories is way out of date, has multiple security vulnerabilities, and is not being maintained anymore. The Debian wiki page for Chromium below has alternative ways to install Chromium but they are third party software which there is some debate about using.

https://wiki.debian.org/Chromium

Update: As of Jan 14 2022 Chromium is up to date in the Bullseye repositories.
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#10 Post by kedaha »

Shamak wrote: 2022-01-09 23:24 Chromium in the official Debian repositories is way out of date [ ...]
It certainly looks that way but it is to be hoped something may be done about it some time soon:

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$ apt policy chromium
chromium:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 90.0.4430.212-1
But you can get the alternative up-to-date version from FlatPak:

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$ flatpak search chromium
Name                  Description                                                       Application ID                        Version       Branch  Remotes
Chromium Web Browser  The web browser from Chromium project                             org.chromium.Chromium                 97.0.4692.71  stable  flathub
As well as the stable "ungoogled" version:

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$ flatpak search ungoogled-chromium
Name                 Description                                                        Application ID                        Version       Branch  Remotes
ungoogled-chromium   A lightweight approach to removing Google web service dependency   com.github.Eloston.UngoogledChromium  97.0.4692.71  stable  flathub

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#11 Post by craigevil »

flatpak and snap both have the updated version of Chromium and Firefox. Snap even has the beta, nightlies of Firefox; and the beta and Canary versions of Chromium.
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#12 Post by NorthEast »

These are GUI browsers that I've sampled and used in the past:

Basilisk
Brave
Dillo
dwb - now deadi
Firefox
Galeon - now dead
Icecat
Librewolf
Midori
Opera
Palemoon
Qutebrowser
Seamonkey
Surf
Tor
Vieb
Vivaldi
Waterfox
Xombrero - now dead

These are text browsers used:

elinks
lynx
w3m

Currently most useful are:

Firefox - for it's extensions
Librewolf - for privacy
w3m - text browsing which can bypass some pay walls
elinks - for downloading text, especially with frames.

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#13 Post by bcarpenter »

I was using Dissenter for a while and I enjoyed the quantity of website challenges to see if I was human. Lost my old copy when I upgraded to Debian and it appears to not be available anymore. It did have it's quirks.

I've used Brave for a bit but I've become disillusioned because it keeps relaxing my "shield" settings. I set my "trackers and ad blocker" shield to "aggressive" and my "fingerprint blocking" to "strict" and both items are changed back to "standard" on the first reboot. Definitely not recommended....

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Re: Good web browser for debian 11

#14 Post by Shamak »

Shamak wrote: 2022-01-09 23:24 Chromium in the official Debian repositories is way out of date, has multiple security vulnerabilities, and is not being maintained anymore. The Debian wiki page for Chromium below has alternative ways to install Chromium but they are third party software which there is some debate about using.

https://wiki.debian.org/Chromium

Update: As of Jan 14 2022 Chromium is up to date in the Bullseye repositories.
Chromium is now up to date in the Bullseye repositories.
kedaha wrote: 2022-01-10 01:02
Shamak wrote: 2022-01-09 23:24 Chromium in the official Debian repositories is way out of date [ ...]
It certainly looks that way but it is to be hoped something may be done about it some time soon:
Thanks for the head's up. :D

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Shamak wrote: 2022-01-15 00:23
Shamak wrote: 2022-01-09 23:24 Chromium in the official Debian repositories is way out of date, has multiple security vulnerabilities, and is not being maintained anymore. The Debian wiki page for Chromium below has alternative ways to install Chromium but they are third party software which there is some debate about using.

https://wiki.debian.org/Chromium

Update: As of Jan 14 2022 Chromium is up to date in the Bullseye repositories.
Chromium is now up to date in the Bullseye repositories.
kedaha wrote: 2022-01-10 01:02
Shamak wrote: 2022-01-09 23:24 Chromium in the official Debian repositories is way out of date [ ...]
It certainly looks that way but it is to be hoped something may be done about it some time soon:
Thanks for the head's up. :D
Nice.
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#16 Post by Waldo Jeffers »

As kedaha started in #3 i would like to continue by pointing out to this website. Its about SECURITY and PRIVACY. The owner is a IT security man. He has checked +20 browsers for data sending behavior. Desktop versions - as well as Android.
Turns out FF is one of the safest. But NOT out of the box. You have to change a whole lot of settings first! It is one of the best since IT IS POSSIBLE to change them settings.
https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#firefox
https://www.kuketz-blog.de/mozilla-fire ... ck-teil20/

https://www.kuketz-blog.de/?s=browser+check

You can use this NON GOOGLE translator
https://www.deepl.com/translator
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#17 Post by canci »

Kuketz's blog is amazing.
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#18 Post by Waldo Jeffers »

OMG, canci! I can't believe you've just read my 'very rude' and 'emphatically written' message. You must be DEAF by now! :)
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