PsySc0rpi0n wrote: Hallvor wrote:
sickpig wrote:looks beautiful and sleek for sure
but anything which uses above 100mb RAM after boot scares me off
I don't get this obsession of low memory usage on an empty desktop. It really doesn't matter at all, unless you like to stare at it, doing nothing. What matters, if RAM is so precious that you pay for it without wanting to use it, is how much RAM is being used when running the applications you use for your daily tasks.
It's not that the point. I on't want to have 16Gb of RAM and force my OS and apps to use as low memory as possible. It becomes an issue when you're pretty much sure that your OS and apps are using too much memory without reason. Like when something is wrong!
I don't mind to have 15 tabs open on chrome, using Atom (text editor), Gimp while I listen to music with VLC and speaking to people on Discord, Telegram and Skpe and RAM is at 95% or more... That's reasonable. What it is not reasonable is when you have only the same 15 tabs open and not much more and you have like 85% or 90% of RAM used. That's not reasonable to me and probably something is wrong. Some hanged up app or some process using too much CPU and/or RAM without you knowing!
On this system I have 3GB of memory. I don't run the same applications or Debian but a similar load as you. 26 tabs in the browser, MPV playing a film inkscape and gimp with files open, transmission, Rox, pidgin, 2 libre-office files open a doc and a spreadsheet, wicd and mail, tor, and chat.
3.6 MiB + 1.1 MiB = 4.7 MiB tint2 (2)
4.0 MiB + 865.5 KiB = 4.9 MiB notification-daemon
4.9 MiB + 467.0 KiB = 5.3 MiB wicd
5.9 MiB + 1.3 MiB = 7.3 MiB transmission-gtk
7.0 MiB + 879.5 KiB = 7.9 MiB ROX-Filer
8.0 MiB + 471.5 KiB = 8.5 MiB bash (3)
7.2 MiB + 1.4 MiB = 8.6 MiB leafpad (2)
10.7 MiB + 1.6 MiB = 12.3 MiB wicd-client
12.5 MiB + 73.5 KiB = 12.5 MiB nscd
13.1 MiB + 1.4 MiB = 14.5 MiB pidgin
14.7 MiB + 1.6 MiB = 16.3 MiB claws-mail
21.6 MiB + 3.3 MiB = 24.9 MiB mumble
37.2 MiB + 361.0 KiB = 37.5 MiB tor
16.9 MiB + 29.4 MiB = 46.3 MiB Xorg
52.4 MiB + 1.8 MiB = 54.2 MiB mpv
72.9 MiB + 1.8 MiB = 74.7 MiB inkscape
82.2 MiB + 1.3 MiB = 83.5 MiB soffice.bin
237.2 MiB + 1.6 MiB = 238.8 MiB gimp-2.6
680.1 MiB + 26.3 MiB = 706.5 MiB seamonkey
Now my system is old and 32bit but I would expect you to be able to run the same with 64bit applications with newer versions with 3gb of ram. If not you must be running some serious bugs or bloat somewhere. Having 16 gb of ram to run those application is obscene even allowing for "you have it I'll use it." of the kernel.
Maybe you need to review your software choice and buy a samsung nc 10. That will make you think about what effects your performance. in a way that improves it. Then when you run that system with 16gb of ram it will friggin fly
All software has a bang for buck ratio.. Some are worth the hit others deserve to die