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Best way to install Debian testing
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Best way to install Debian testing
Hi, i have a few days that i decide to try Debian.
I try installing it in a virtual machine first to try it before i install it on my main pc.
I have a few newbie question i think!
1)What is the best way to install debian testing? I try installing stable and then change the sources.list and i try installing testing from netinstall. Is the same, or there is only one way to do it with the right way?
2)The sources.list that i now have is:
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free contrib
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free
Is that all we need for running testing?
3)When bookworm became the stable version, how we move to the next testing?
If anyone knows and have the time,
Thanks a lot
I try installing it in a virtual machine first to try it before i install it on my main pc.
I have a few newbie question i think!
1)What is the best way to install debian testing? I try installing stable and then change the sources.list and i try installing testing from netinstall. Is the same, or there is only one way to do it with the right way?
2)The sources.list that i now have is:
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free contrib
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free
Is that all we need for running testing?
3)When bookworm became the stable version, how we move to the next testing?
If anyone knows and have the time,
Thanks a lot
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Re: Best way to install Debian testing
You can change via the sources list.
Unless you need the Debian source files, most people don't, you don't need the lines which begin deb-src.
Testing does not get security updates.
When bookworm becomes Stable you can change to the next Testing.
Unless you need the Debian source files, most people don't, you don't need the lines which begin deb-src.
Testing does not get security updates.
Source - https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/Please note that security updates for testing distribution are not yet managed by the security team. Hence, testing does not get security updates in a timely manner. You are encouraged to switch your sources.list entries from testing to bullseye for the time being if you need security support. See also the entry in the Security Team's FAQ for the testing distribution.
When bookworm becomes Stable you can change to the next Testing.
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Re: Best way to install Debian testing
thanks for your time.
In the link from your post it says for security updates , from time to time to change sources.list so we can get security updates.
So this line "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free is not working? i mean we can delete it or we need it?"
Can we have testing sources with stable on comment state (#) so we can time to time change the comment and turn from one to another so we can get security updates? and this procedure is not going to brake the system? (i mean to get security updates from stable repositories)
Thanks a lot again
In the link from your post it says for security updates , from time to time to change sources.list so we can get security updates.
So this line "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free is not working? i mean we can delete it or we need it?"
Can we have testing sources with stable on comment state (#) so we can time to time change the comment and turn from one to another so we can get security updates? and this procedure is not going to brake the system? (i mean to get security updates from stable repositories)
Thanks a lot again
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Re: Best way to install Debian testing
It's for a pc I have connected with a tv so I would like to have some apps in newest verions.
And perhaps after time I may install one or two apps I would like to Play (pi-hole for example)
And perhaps after time I may install one or two apps I would like to Play (pi-hole for example)
Re: Best way to install Debian testing
This may be helpful: https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/errataSo this line "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free is not working?
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Re: Best way to install Debian testing
Thanks!NorthEast wrote: ↑2021-11-28 09:32This may be helpful: https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/errataSo this line "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free is not working?
So if i get it right we can add these two repositories so we can have security updates?
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Re: Best way to install Debian testing
You can also replace:
with:
I am not aware of all that it changes, but I do know that it loads kernel 5.15.x instead of 5.14.x.
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deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main
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deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/testing main
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Re: Best way to install Debian testing
Yes i know we can change the name of next release with testing in sources, but i feel more secure (i may be wrong about it but it is in my mind!) to change it by hand to the name of the next testing release, so i can manually do the update when the time comes. I think with testing word in repository the update will be automatic
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Re: Best way to install Debian testing
Correct.chriszamanis wrote: ↑2021-11-28 10:54 Yes i know we can change the name of next release with testing in sources, but i feel more secure (i may be wrong about it but it is in my mind!) to change it by hand to the name of the next testing release, so i can manually do the update when the time comes. I think with testing word in repository the update will be automatic
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Re: Best way to install Debian testing
Thanks! So only one question i didn't get it right! i write it and few post before.
"Can we have testing sources with stable on comment state (#) so we can time to time change the comment and turn from one to another so we can get security updates? and this procedure is not going to brake the system? (i mean to get security updates from stable repositories)"
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Re: Best way to install Debian testing
No, don't do that, it can break your system. Seriously, if you have to ask you should not be using testing. I've been using Debian for over 16 years and have gone back to using stable after messing with unstable and testing for years, it is much less hassle. Stable usually Just Works!chriszamanis wrote: ↑2021-11-28 11:03Thanks! So only one question i didn't get it right! i write it and few post before.
"Can we have testing sources with stable on comment state (#) so we can time to time change the comment and turn from one to another so we can get security updates? and this procedure is not going to brake the system? (i mean to get security updates from stable repositories)"
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Re: Best way to install Debian testing
Yes i can understand what you saying. But you always want to try and play! Sometimes of course you can lose!sunrat wrote: ↑2021-11-28 11:08 No, don't do that, it can break your system. Seriously, if you have to ask you should not be using testing. I've been using Debian for over 16 years and have gone back to using stable after messing with unstable and testing for years, it is much less hassle. Stable usually Just Works!
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Re: Best way to install Debian testing
Ok thanks for that, i win not do it! I am confused because in this link https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/ it says in a point "Please note that security updates for "testing" distribution are not yet managed by the security team. Hence, "testing" does not get security updates in a timely manner. You are encouraged to switch your sources.list entries from testing to bullseye for the time being if you need security support. See also the entry in the Security Team's FAQ for the "testing" distribution."sunrat wrote: ↑2021-11-28 11:08 No, don't do that, it can break your system. Seriously, if you have to ask you should not be using testing. I've been using Debian for over 16 years and have gone back to using stable after messing with unstable and testing for years, it is much less hassle. Stable usually Just Works!
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Re: Best way to install Debian testing
That means "if you want security, run stable".
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Re: Best way to install Debian testing
Late reply but if this is why you are considering Testing, perhaps you could learn to backport software to Stable?chriszamanis wrote: ↑2021-11-26 21:49 It's for a pc I have connected with a tv so I would like to have some apps in newest verions.
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Re: Best way to install Debian testing
No it's never late! Thank you, i check for it, but i believe if you want something big in a newer version from backport (i mean something like newest gnome for example), it will be difficultMultiplexLayout wrote: ↑2021-12-03 18:47 Late reply but if this is why you are considering Testing, perhaps you could learn to backport software to Stable?