Hola,
Since a year ago I'm using Ubuntu (now on 22.04) (for my main computer). While learning about programming C and about Ubuntu, Linux etc. I ask my myself, why not use Debian instead of Ubuntu.
What can hold me back is my hardware and my expectations. In my computer I have a i9 12900 CPU and a RTX 3080 GPU.
I am happy with it watching movies and playing games on Steam.
Can you please tell if Debian (with Linux 5.10) would bring significant limitations?
And if Steam on Debian should run reasonably good compared Ubuntu 22.04?
Sorry for bothering.
Thanks a lot!
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Hardware and kernel version
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Re: Hardware and kernel version
I don't think Debian 11 has the necessary Mesa and firmware for your 12th-gen Intel stuff yet. Maybe if you don't need the Intel Graphics, and use the nvidia-driver from bullseye-backports, but that may be tough without a GUI if you haven't used a terminal for a while.
In Ubuntu, you could install inxi and run "inxi -Fxxxz" in a terminal, then copypaste the output here. That would give the gurus here a better idea of what's in your box and what drivers it's using in Ubuntu.
In Ubuntu, you could install inxi and run "inxi -Fxxxz" in a terminal, then copypaste the output here. That would give the gurus here a better idea of what's in your box and what drivers it's using in Ubuntu.
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Re: Hardware and kernel version
Hello Steve,
Thanks for the feedback. I don't hope to use the Intel Graphics much (again) in the future. Had a lot of black screen monitor trouble (booting) round the start of Ubuntu 22.04. Also on Ubuntu 21.X with my previous GPU 1080ti. Now I know that HDMI does not work well on Ubuntu with my monitor (ASUS PA329) booting. If I have to guess, I would say that it has got something to do with High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP). But this opinion is only based on having a black screen (with HDMI and not with DisplayPort).
EDIT: ok thanks, I think with your reply it's possible to come to some sort of conclusion. The answer would be yes
There will be an obvious limitation. You mentioned Intel Graphics (concerning CPU). And possible also for the GPU. I looked into it. Bullseye does not offer the 5.10(.73) Nvidia driver. Question then is, do I need/want it (I can test this for a bit on Ubuntu). Or would an install following the instruction on this website be a succes:
https://www.linuxcapable.com/install-51 ... -bullseye/
Terminal inxi -Fxxxz:
Thanks for the feedback. I don't hope to use the Intel Graphics much (again) in the future. Had a lot of black screen monitor trouble (booting) round the start of Ubuntu 22.04. Also on Ubuntu 21.X with my previous GPU 1080ti. Now I know that HDMI does not work well on Ubuntu with my monitor (ASUS PA329) booting. If I have to guess, I would say that it has got something to do with High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP). But this opinion is only based on having a black screen (with HDMI and not with DisplayPort).
EDIT: ok thanks, I think with your reply it's possible to come to some sort of conclusion. The answer would be yes
There will be an obvious limitation. You mentioned Intel Graphics (concerning CPU). And possible also for the GPU. I looked into it. Bullseye does not offer the 5.10(.73) Nvidia driver. Question then is, do I need/want it (I can test this for a bit on Ubuntu). Or would an install following the instruction on this website be a succes:
https://www.linuxcapable.com/install-51 ... -bullseye/
Terminal inxi -Fxxxz:
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System:
Kernel: 5.15.0-40-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.2.0
Desktop: GNOME 42.2 tk: GTK 3.24.33 wm: gnome-shell dm: GDM3 42.0
Distro: Ubuntu 22.04 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish)
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: Micro-Star model: PRO Z690-A DDR4(MS-7D25) v: 1.0
serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: 1.00
date: 09/14/2021
CPU:
Info: 16-core (8-mt/8-st) model: 12th Gen Intel Core i9-12900K bits: 64
type: MST AMCP smt: enabled arch: Alder Lake rev: 2 cache: L1: 1.4 MiB
L2: 14 MiB L3: 30 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 832 high: 1977 min/max: 800/5200:3900 cores: 1: 700
2: 701 3: 670 4: 701 5: 700 6: 701 7: 700 8: 701 9: 800 10: 800 11: 800
12: 801 13: 700 14: 701 15: 700 16: 701 17: 800 18: 1112 19: 1977 20: 800
21: 1316 22: 799 23: 800 24: 801 bogomips: 152985
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel AlderLake-S GT1 vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: i915
v: kernel ports: active: none
empty: DP-1, DP-2, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2, HDMI-A-3, HDMI-A-4 bus-ID: 00:02.0
chip-ID: 8086:4680 class-ID: 0300
Device-2: NVIDIA GA102 [GeForce RTX 3080 Lite Hash Rate]
vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: nvidia v: 510.73.08 pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s
lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:2216 class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.3 compositor: gnome-shell driver: X:
loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa gpu: i915,nvidia
display-ID: :1 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x2160 s-dpi: 137 s-size: 712x400mm (28.0x15.7")
s-diag: 817mm (32.2")
Monitor-1: DP-0 res: 3840x2160 hz: 60 dpi: 138
size: 708x399mm (27.9x15.7") diag: 813mm (32")
OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080/PCIe/SSE2
v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 510.73.08 direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: NVIDIA GA102 High Definition Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:1aef class-ID: 0403
Device-2: Yamaha AG06/AG03 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio
bus-ID: 1-5.4.1:8 chip-ID: 0499:170d class-ID: 0103
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-40-generic running: yes
Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes
Network:
Device-1: Intel Ethernet I225-V vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: igc
v: kernel pcie: speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: N/A bus-ID: 04:00.0
chip-ID: 8086:15f3 class-ID: 0200
IF: enp4s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 5 TiB used: 314.04 GiB (6.1%)
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 980 PRO 1TB
size: 931.51 GiB speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: 3B2QGXA7 temp: 45.9 C scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 960 EVO 500GB
size: 465.76 GiB speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: 2B7QCXE7 temp: 33.9 C scheme: GPT
ID-3: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD40EZRZ-00WN9B0
size: 3.64 TiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter>
rev: 0A80 scheme: GPT
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 915.32 GiB used: 314.01 GiB (34.3%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 32.6 MiB (6.4%) fs: vfat
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
file: /swapfile
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 27.8 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
Processes: 492 Uptime: 1h 9m wakeups: 0 Memory: 31.2 GiB
used: 3.75 GiB (12.0%) Init: systemd v: 249 runlevel: 5 Compilers:
gcc: 11.2.0 alt: 11 Packages: 2322 apt: 2289 flatpak: 16 snap: 17
Shell: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.3.13
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