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Best (?) Container

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Best (?) Container

#1 Post by graemev2 »

I have a small server where I need to run some "non standard" services (e.g. Unifi ...so commercial) in order to keep my Debian install "clean"I plan to do so in a Container.

In the past (for a commercial company) I used Docker. I see now that is involved in all sorts of "political/financial" stuff and in any case was never FOSS.

Now I could do this "from scratch" using LXC (LXD?) but I'm not trying to make my life hard and build from scratch (there are, for example, Docker images for Unifi) and I can see there are all sorts of "Better Docker than Docker" solutions around but as far as I can see none actually ship with Debian .

So (and this is definitely "stirring up a hornet's nest") which is "best", defining best as:
  1. : Easy to use with Docker images
  2. : Either in Debian repos, or so close that it might be one day soon

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#2 Post by CwF »

Why not a full VM?

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#3 Post by jmgibson1981 »

LXC and KVM virtual machines are the most likely options. You might be able to run these given services in a chroot I suppose as well.

Forgive me noticing the irony though that you need to run
"non standard" services (e.g. Unifi ...so commercial)
and yet
I used Docker. I see now that is involved in all sorts of "political/financial" stuff and in any case was never FOSS.
is a problem for you. To each their own I guess.

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Just overhead and lots of duplication, e.g. I really don't need another kernel and another set of kernel updates etc.
I use VMs on my dev box, but there I really care about the OS including differing kernel versions. Here is just a single app, so cgroup type protection is good enough.

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#6 Post by graemev2 »

@ jmgibson1981

I thought I'd made the distinction clear?

When I did a paid job for a commercial firm I used Docker , who pays the piper and all that.

On MY Debian box I try NOT to run "Restricted/Commercial" software.
For Unifi , in order to use their hardware I need to use their software (not my call) but if I have to, then I'd like to keep it in a container, since it's not open and I really have no idea what it's trying to do.

Now I can just make my own containers using LXC/LXD but that's a lot of work , especially as there are already pre-built containers (using the Docker format) that many Container technologies can use (e.g .. portainer on podman ) but if I use something 'closed' I'm back at square 1, so best would be something already in Debian Repos that can use Docker images , failing that something which might soon be in Repos ..i.e. they FOSS but not yet meeting all the Debian rules.

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Docker is open source btw. Not sure why you think it isn't.
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#8 Post by graemev2 »

Things like:
https://www.docker.com/pricing/

and
https://itsfoss.com/mirantis-docker-acquisition/

That said you may be right but you can see why I steer clear (if possible).

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graemev2 wrote: 2022-08-17 16:38 On MY Debian box I try NOT to run "Restricted/Commercial" software.
For Unifi , in order to use their hardware I need to use their software (not my call) but if I have to, then I'd like to keep it in a container, since it's not open and I really have no idea what it's trying to do.
Get serious, KVM.
If it's worth doing...

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