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Bonkers Gnome

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Re: Bonkers Gnome

#41 Post by oswaldkelso »

Re icewm. It's a fantastic WM. It's super configerable and light. The main issue I had with it was the devs stuck a gui config in the main menu. Being so configuerable means it's very easy to screw up any customisations espesialy if you use other programes to build your desktop. Yes I know you can create a back up and revert. But I'd like such power hidden from the normies. Not thrust in their faces to click willy nilly and then say it's crap. Note: this is not like gnome that removed them. .icewm has all the files you need to totally screw up your desktop :-)

I deleted gnome after trying it and ranting about it's terrible resouce usage and interface design at the start of this thread. But as I still had the Bullseye installer on a usb I thought what would my "normal" desktop look like on Debian. I also wanted to test out apulse with firefox and my webcam so I did a quick minimalish install.

This is the output from ps_mem after booting to the desktop. No idea why notion is listed as x-window-manager but anyway it would be very light if systemd didn't take over 1/3 of the resources! Even so, very respectable and made this old atom actually very usable again and able to run firefox and libreoffice together even though it only has 1GB of Ram.

Private + Shared = RAM used Program

76.0 KiB + 44.5 KiB = 120.5 KiB xf86-video-intel-backlight-helper
200.0 KiB + 59.5 KiB = 259.5 KiB startx
280.0 KiB + 186.5 KiB = 466.5 KiB cron
208.0 KiB + 355.5 KiB = 563.5 KiB xinit
532.0 KiB + 43.5 KiB = 575.5 KiB ssh-agent
620.0 KiB + 618.5 KiB = 1.2 MiB systemd-timesyncd
892.0 KiB + 662.5 KiB = 1.5 MiB systemd-logind
920.0 KiB + 1.0 MiB = 1.9 MiB dbus-daemon (2)
5.8 MiB + -3878.5 KiB = 2.0 MiB rsyslogd
2.1 MiB + 221.5 KiB = 2.3 MiB systemd-udevd
1.2 MiB + 1.3 MiB = 2.5 MiB login (2)
2.4 MiB + 534.5 KiB = 2.9 MiB sshd
7.6 MiB + -4502.5 KiB = 3.2 MiB polkitd
1.8 MiB + 1.5 MiB = 3.3 MiB bash (2)
3.4 MiB + 662.5 KiB = 4.0 MiB x-window-manage
8.5 MiB + -2425.5 KiB = 6.2 MiB udisksd
4.1 MiB + 4.6 MiB = 8.8 MiB systemd (5)
9.3 MiB + 635.5 KiB = 9.9 MiB systemd-journald
15.3 MiB + -3040.5 KiB = 12.3 MiB Xorg
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64.0 MiB
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What the flippin-hell is this about!

Private + Shared = RAM used Program

620.0 KiB + 618.5 KiB = 1.2 MiB systemd-timesyncd
892.0 KiB + 662.5 KiB = 1.5 MiB systemd-logind
2.1 MiB + 221.5 KiB = 2.3 MiB systemd-udevd
4.1 MiB + 4.6 MiB = 8.8 MiB systemd (5)
9.3 MiB + 635.5 KiB = 9.9 MiB systemd-journald
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23.7 MiB
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The year of the linux desktop just aint going to ever happen with projects like Gnome and snaps etc. In a world where everyone is trying to reduce energy consumption to stop the planet over heating. Why is it software is getting more bloated and less efficent. Can't developers use C any more. :twisted:

I know everything is relative and we should really be looking at Windows/Apple/Android bloat but here in this sphere we can actually make a difference.

Reducing resource use is something everyone should be doing. 3R's comes first then only when it makes sence do newer low energy computers become required.

I realize I'm wandering/expanding the toppic a bit but Gnomes resorce usage is an issue that needs fixed and a quick look at the bug tracker shows they know it!
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