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"Free as in Free Beer" Hardware /home

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Over the past few years I have acquired various working computer parts via friends, family and co-workers. I am listing these items "Free as in Free Beer" on the forum for anyone who is interested.
Since these are fairly light items, I can ship them for lower costs. If costs become prohibitive -- e.g. shipping lots of parts -- I will investigate opening up a PayPal account dedicated exclusively to raising shipping funds.

Why would I like to do this? From a philosophical and socio-political standpoint I feel this is the best way to help my fellow Free Software comrades. After all, Free Software is only great if it has compatible hardware to run on.

I also realize there are members across the globe in situations which prohibit expensive hardware acquisitions.
For example, there may be users who need DDR2 RAM or older GPUs for their systems.
At the end of the day this is my way of extending a helping hand to those in need. :)

If anyone else has parts they want to share with others, feel free to post in this thread.
Let me know if there are particular parts you are looking for and I will definitely search for them!
I will update this post as often as possible.

Note: Links are used for listing technical specifications.

Happy Hacking everyone!

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GPUs: NVIDIA
PNY GeForce FX5200 DDR 128MB PCI

PSUs
2x Replacement AC Adapter Model ST-C-075-12000600CT 100-240V ~1.5A input, 12V output

RAM

CPUs: AMD
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Windsor 2.0GHz Socket AM2 89W Dual-Core Processor ADA3800CUBOX

CPUs: Intel


ODD

Heatsinks
AMD AM3 stock heatsink w/fan (Brand new :) )

Fans
4x 120mm Bitfenix stock fans

Cables
4-Pin Molex to 6-Pin PCI-E Adapter Cable (Example image)
Gold Plated High Speed Mini HDMI to HDMI 25ft Cable

Accessories
2x 120mm black fan grills
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Updates
05/13/13: I have discovered a veritable treasure chest of DDR to DDR3 RAM on my workbench (it's been a while since I've cleaned it off :lol: ) and will be updating this post with manufacturer and timing info!
05/15/13: I have a humorous quantity of computer cables -- e.g. SATA, IDE, PATA, USB, etc. -- and I'm listing them for those in need of cabling :)
05/25/13: Found some brand new AC adapters in my computer part bins. I'm also listing accessories like screws, fan grills and multimedia cables for those in need of such items!
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#2 Post by emariz »

While I do not currently need computer parts, I really appreciate your solidarity gesture, also from a socio-political point of view.
If there were people in a situation of necessity who required heavy or multiple parts and were not able to cover the shipping costs, I could help.

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#3 Post by Absent Minded »

This thread, under the circumstances, has been approved to be placed here in this section as was previously discussed with a member of the forums admin team. We know it is an unusual exception to our polocies regarding placment of such topics.

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#4 Post by Soapm »

If someone can post their needs I can see if I have it? I got a lot of spare parts from the years and would be glad to contribute in the spirit also.

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#5 Post by deltaflyer »

+1
i can see what i've got,seem to have a few bits & pieces lying around
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#6 Post by Gyokuro »

+1 as I think this is a good idea and it will be also interesting what is maybe required/requested as I have large amounts of DDR2/3 which are in good condition but too small for our needs and otherwise we donate them or throw them away.

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#7 Post by /tmp »

Does anyone have any experience purchasing static shielding/ESD bags online? If so, where are the best places to purchase them, preferably in bulk? It looks like I only have 3, maybe 4, to spare.

P.S. Thanks for the feedback everyone. It really made my day.
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#8 Post by bw123 »

great idea! I only accept union beer like miller's high life, or pabst blue ribbon.

If anybody wants to trade some old hardware, just let me know.

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#9 Post by sjukfan »

This is really a great idea. I should look through the piles here and see. I'm pretty sure I have both working cpus and memories to spare. Probably a bunch of scsi cards and other things too.

For anti static bags I'd look at http://www.aliexpress.com or http://www.dhgate.com
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#10 Post by confuseling »

How many do you need?

Walk into any independent computer repair shop and tell them you need some... they normally have enough of them to view them as rubbish.
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#11 Post by /tmp »

That sounds like a grand idea. I will stop by a shop I know and see if they can lend a hand.

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#12 Post by confuseling »

You might have luck with the chains too, don't know (and probably depends to a significant extent which country you're in...).

I've just found it a general rule in life that an independent outfit usually thinks about a question like "Can I take away that stuff you think of as rubbish please?" rationally, whereas a chain will have a policy because of some weird event 17 years ago in a town 400 miles away...
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#13 Post by andrewrogers »

I could use a 1GB DDR1 SO-DIMM for my Northwood lappy.

I have some P4 Prescott machines lying around, as well as a headless iBook (headless in a literal sense). The iBook has 684MB of RAM.

I'll take ANY PowerPC hardware! I love those machines! An original Bondi Blue iMac or a Rev. B iMac would be awesome. Beige Macs are cool, too.

Although, what I need most are LEGOs. I have modded many a computer. I have so far completed a LEGO PII and a LEGO PIII. Perhaps I'll post it to another thread...
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Northwood P4 Latitude + 1.25GB of RAM (Radeon 7500)
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#14 Post by /tmp »

andrewrogers wrote:I could use a 1GB DDR1 SO-DIMM for my Northwood lappy.
Do you need any specific RAM timings for your system? E.g. DDR 333 (PC 2700), DDR 400 (PC 3200), DDR 800 (PC 6400)? I can look around in my supply and if I don't have them, I will talk with fellow IT peeps around town. If that fails I will attempt to peruse the July surplus sale at my alma mater.
andrewrogers wrote:I'll take ANY PowerPC hardware! I love those machines! An original Bondi Blue iMac or a Rev. B iMac would be awesome.
Fully working or "for parts/as-is"? Either way I'm pretty sure I can scrounge up some models around where I live.
andrewrogers wrote:Beige Macs are cool, too.
Love those models. I bought an as-is Macintosh Classic II on eBay so I could gut it and turn it into a Debian GNU/Linux machine to troll hipsters at coffee shops :D
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/tmp wrote:
andrewrogers wrote:I could use a 1GB DDR1 SO-DIMM for my Northwood lappy.
Do you need any specific RAM timings for your system? E.g. DDR 333 (PC 2700), DDR 400 (PC 3200), DDR 800 (PC 6400)? I can look around in my supply and if I don't have them, I will talk with fellow IT peeps around town. If that fails I will attempt to peruse the July surplus sale at my alma mater.
I don't think my PC cares. I didn't even know there was such an animal as DDR 800. My machine has an Intel 845 (Brookdale) chipset. I put one DDR 400 1GB DIMM in it, but it was the last one they had in stock at MicroCenter :? Don't most P4 machines have an FSB of 800MHz or more?
/tmp wrote:
andrewrogers wrote:I'll take ANY PowerPC hardware! I love those machines! An original Bondi Blue iMac or a Rev. B iMac would be awesome.
Fully working or "for parts/as-is"? Either way I'm pretty sure I can scrounge up some models around where I live.
Doesn't matter. I sure would like a G4 dual 800MHz or faster CPU for a Quicksilver. It has an 867MHz single at the moment.
/tmp wrote:
andrewrogers wrote:Beige Macs are cool, too.
Love those models. I bought an as-is Macintosh Classic II on eBay so I could gut it and turn it into a Debian GNU/Linux machine to troll hipsters at coffee shops :D
Nice! I trolled some people with my Raspberry Pi not too long ago... :mrgreen: PowerPC or 68k machines are great. Did you reuse the stock CRT??

Seriously, I'll take any hardware that can run Linux.

Will that GeForce FX5200 provide OpenGL on Debian out of the box? It could be used in my Northwood laptop's PCI docking station (an awesome beast of a docking station, BTW). I could PM my address, perhaps.

Also, complete or half-broken Thinkpads are cool, too.

If anyone wants a P4 Prescott machine, just ask. I have 3 of them. Two of them are just Intel mATX motherboards without cases, however, but they are all fully-functional. One is an Intel ATX in a mid-tower case (a nice plain black case with a cool blue power button). They are quite fast. I often don't see much of a difference between them and my Ivy Bridge for most basic tasks. They could all use better GPU's, though.

The Prescotts could use a bit more DDR2 RAM if they are to be competitive, however. I'd love to give the machines away to anyone who needs a rock-solid P4 machine. I'm short on funds at the moment, so I don't know how I would pay for shipping on them, though.

Sent from Andrew's Northwood laptop in bed :mrgreen:
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/tmp wrote:
andrewrogers wrote:I could use a 1GB DDR1 SO-DIMM for my Northwood lappy.
Do you need any specific RAM timings for your system? E.g. DDR 333 (PC 2700), DDR 400 (PC 3200), DDR 800 (PC 6400)? I can look around in my supply and if I don't have them, I will talk with fellow IT peeps around town. If that fails I will attempt to peruse the July surplus sale at my alma mater.
I don't think my PC cares. I didn't even know there was such an animal as DDR 800. My machine has an Intel 845 (Brookdale) chipset. I put one DDR 400 1GB DIMM in it, but it was the last one they had in stock at MicroCenter :? Don't most P4 machines have an FSB of 800MHz or more?
/tmp wrote:
andrewrogers wrote:I'll take ANY PowerPC hardware! I love those machines! An original Bondi Blue iMac or a Rev. B iMac would be awesome.
Fully working or "for parts/as-is"? Either way I'm pretty sure I can scrounge up some models around where I live.
Doesn't matter. I sure would like a G4 dual 800MHz or faster CPU for a Quicksilver. It has an 867MHz single at the moment.
/tmp wrote:
andrewrogers wrote:Beige Macs are cool, too.
Love those models. I bought an as-is Macintosh Classic II on eBay so I could gut it and turn it into a Debian GNU/Linux machine to troll hipsters at coffee shops :D
Nice! I trolled some people with my Raspberry Pi not too long ago... :mrgreen: PowerPC or 68k machines are great. Did you reuse the stock CRT??

Seriously, I'll take any hardware that can run Linux.

Will that GeForce FX5200 provide OpenGL on Debian out of the box? It could be used in my Northwood laptop's PCI docking station (an awesome beast of a docking station, BTW). I could PM my address, perhaps.

Also, complete or half-broken Thinkpads are cool, too.

If anyone wants a P4 Prescott machine, just ask. I have 3 of them. Two of them are just Intel mATX motherboards without cases, however, but they are all fully-functional. One is an Intel ATX in a mid-tower case (a nice plain black case with a cool blue power button). They are quite fast. I often don't see much of a difference between them and my Ivy Bridge for most basic tasks. They could all use better GPU's, though.

The Prescotts could use a bit more DDR2 RAM if they are to be competitive, however. I'd love to give the machines away to anyone who needs a rock-solid P4 machine. I'm short on funds at the moment, so I don't know how I would pay for shipping on them, though.

Sent from Andrew's Northwood laptop in bed :mrgreen:
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Core 2 Extreme (X9100!) Latitude E6400 + 8GB of RAM (Quadro NVS 160M)
Northwood P4 Latitude + 1.25GB of RAM (Radeon 7500)
Mac Mini G4 (1.5GHz!) + 1GB of RAM (Radeon 9200)
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#17 Post by /tmp »

andrewrogers wrote:
Did you reuse the stock CRT??
Sadly, no. I wanted to properly dispose of it ASAP knowing the dangers of breaking the tubes inside. I say this because a hardware technician at one of my high schools -- I moved frequently during those years -- dropped a CRT during the installation of a monitor in our television studio and was killed by shrapnel.
andrewrogers wrote:Will that GeForce FX5200 provide OpenGL on Debian out of the box?
Did some digging and it looks like it will not :(

From NVIDIA's OpenGL Driver Support page:
The new features in OpenGL 3 require G80, or newer hardware. Thus OpenGL 3.0/3.1/3.2/3.3 is not supported on NV3x, NV4x nor G7x hardware.
andrewrogers wrote:I'm short on funds at the moment, so I don't know how I would pay for shipping on them, though.
That gives me an idea. Would it be beneficial if we, as a community, formed a "Free Hardware Bazaar" of sorts 501(c)(3) public charity group/foundation to help cover shipping, anti-static bags, boxes and help spread the message of Debian GNU/Linux and Free Software adoption?
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#18 Post by acewiza »

I have plenty of old hardware of all kinds sitting stored, unused. I also keep several rather long-in-the-tooth systems running various flavors of Linux as testing and storage platforms. But the reason the rest of the stuff is taking up space and gathering dust is because it is just basically obsolete. I don't wish to burden anyone with the frustration that would surely ensue attempting to utilize my old junk.
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/tmp wrote:
andrewrogers wrote:
Did you reuse the stock CRT??
Sadly, no. I wanted to properly dispose of it ASAP knowing the dangers of breaking the tubes inside. I say this because a hardware technician at one of my high schools -- I moved frequently during those years -- dropped a CRT during the installation of a monitor in our television studio and was killed by shrapnel.
I don't blame you. Still cool.
/tmp wrote:
andrewrogers wrote:Will that GeForce FX5200 provide OpenGL on Debian out of the box?
Did some digging and it looks like it will not :(

From NVIDIA's OpenGL Driver Support page:
The new features in OpenGL 3 require G80, or newer hardware. Thus OpenGL 3.0/3.1/3.2/3.3 is not supported on NV3x, NV4x nor G7x hardware.
As long as OpenGL 2 works, I'll take it! 2 works, right?
/tmp wrote:
andrewrogers wrote:I'm short on funds at the moment, so I don't know how I would pay for shipping on them, though.
That gives me an idea. Would it be beneficial if we, as a community, formed a "Free Hardware Bazaar" of sorts 501(c)(3) public charity group/foundation to help cover shipping, anti-static bags, boxes and help spread the message of Debian GNU/Linux and Free Software adoption?
This would be a great idea. I would love to contribute hardware if others would help with shipping.

BTW, I will be moving out to the country by the end of this month: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=5520+dam ... 6,,0,16.17 , so I'll have some more room to aquire some hardware (at the expense of my wonderful FiOS :cry: ).
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Core 2 Extreme (X9100!) Latitude E6400 + 8GB of RAM (Quadro NVS 160M)
Northwood P4 Latitude + 1.25GB of RAM (Radeon 7500)
Mac Mini G4 (1.5GHz!) + 1GB of RAM (Radeon 9200)
TiBook G4 + 1GB of RAM (Rad 9200)

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#20 Post by /tmp »

andrewrogers wrote:As long as OpenGL 2 works, I'll take it! 2 works, right?
According to page 3 of the PDF found here it does :)

andrewrogers wrote:This would be a great idea. I would love to contribute hardware if others would help with shipping.
Here are some things I have pondered recently in regards to making this idea a reality.

1.) Utilize the hardware database at h-node.org which is licensed under the Public Domain.

2.) Figure out how to apply for 501 (c) (3) status as a public charity

According to the IRS Instruction 1023 (Rev. June 2012), we can create a constitution or "Articles of Association."

I found a page with links to sample organizing documents which could be used as a basis for this project.

3.) I also wanted to start a collaborative community project to write a series of books under the GNU Free Documentation License on how to maintain and troubleshoot hardware issues on Free Software systems.

I even thought of a nifty potential slogan: "Free as in Freedom and Free as in Free Gear."
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