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What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
Hello, I've just installed Buster but I find the fonts annoying, I liked them in Stretch. Here is what I mean:
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
Which desktop is this?
Check the font settings, it's probably the hinting.
Check the font settings, it's probably the hinting.
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
I've disabled hinting now, there is a difference, but not an improvement:
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
There are four different hinting types available, try matching whichever setting stretch is using.a3e6u9 wrote:I've disabled hinting
Did you check the antialiasing method?
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
I've been running Buster on this box for at least a month, with KDE and can't notice any difference in fonts compared to Stretch.
I mostly use a terminal but with my HD screen, I can read the fine print quite clearly using default settings, which are in
System Settings > Fonts > Anti-aliasing - use Vendor Default
and in Font management - also using default values.
I mostly use a terminal but with my HD screen, I can read the fine print quite clearly using default settings, which are in
System Settings > Fonts > Anti-aliasing - use Vendor Default
and in Font management - also using default values.
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
They both look the same to me, in the first post screen shots. And then the 3rd one , still looks the same,...
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
They don't look the same, but the difference is slight. On my screen I find the difference annoying, on Buster there is a tinge. I think it's because of the lcdfilter setting, after I set it to lcdlegacy I saw an improvement. On Stretch, these settings are undistinguishable from the default ones, but on Buster there is still a difference, though the fonts look better (to me):GarryRicketson wrote:They both look the same to me, in the first post screen shots. And then the 3rd one , still looks the same,...
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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
<match target="font">
<edit mode="assign" name="hinting" >
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="autohint" >
<bool>false</bool>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font">
<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle" >
<const>hintfull</const>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font">
<edit mode="assign" name="rgba" >
<const>rgb</const>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font">
<edit mode="assign" name="antialias" >
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font">
<edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter">
<const>lcdlegacy</const>
</edit>
</match>
</fontconfig>
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
I wonder how world would look if you are colour blind. But as far as fonts are concerned I am blessed with being font blind, i dont absolutely mind whatever font it is. I am just not bothered by it. But I have been around a lot of people who are extremely intolerant of a different font-set. So I can identify with the OP however I agree with Garry both pics look the same.
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
Hello. You can try my fontconfig:
Also, you should install fonts-inconsolata and fonts-symbola
Looks like this:
Also in my .Xresource file, i have this settings
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<?xml version='1.0'?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd'>
<fontconfig>
<alias>
<family>serif</family>
<prefer><family>Linux Libertine</family></prefer>
</alias>
<alias>
<family>sans-serif</family>
<prefer><family>Linux Biolinum</family></prefer>
</alias>
<alias>
<family>sans</family>
<prefer><family>Linux Biolinum</family></prefer>
</alias>
<alias>
<family>monospace</family>
<prefer><family>Inconsolata</family></prefer>
</alias>
<!-- This sets Symbola as the final fallback font for the monospace font family. -->
<match target="pattern">
<test name="family"><string>monospace</string></test>
<edit name="family" mode="append"><string>Symbola</string></edit>
</match>
</fontconfig>
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sudo apt install fonts-inconsolata fonts-symbola
Also in my .Xresource file, i have this settings
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Xft.dpi: 96
Xft.antialias: 1
Xft.hinting: 1
Xft.hintstyle: hintslight
Xft.rgba: rgb
Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault
OS: Debian 12.4 Bookworm / DE: Enlightenment
Debian Wiki | DontBreakDebian, My config files on github
Debian Wiki | DontBreakDebian, My config files on github
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
Let me show you the differences. It's amazing what some people think are nice fonts (4th one).GarryRicketson wrote:They both look the same to me, in the first post screen shots. And then the 3rd one , still looks the same,...
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
Thank you, but the solutions don't work for me. Maybe I need to downgrade to the good fontconfig (or skip Buster altogether).Head_on_a_Stick wrote:@OP: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... =%23866950
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
You should start from scratch with a fresh user session, or create a user test session to compare.
You may be hold some old settings over upgrades which are not necessary anymore.
I say this because I recently created a new user profile, and don't have any font problems in KDE in Buster with 100% default font setting.
I always had had more or less font problems in GTk applications (not as clean as expected), and now perfect in Buster.
I only had to disable font anti-aliasing in terminal.
Also check you don't have some old and totally obsolete Xorg settings somewhere in your system.
You may be hold some old settings over upgrades which are not necessary anymore.
I say this because I recently created a new user profile, and don't have any font problems in KDE in Buster with 100% default font setting.
I always had had more or less font problems in GTk applications (not as clean as expected), and now perfect in Buster.
I only had to disable font anti-aliasing in terminal.
Also check you don't have some old and totally obsolete Xorg settings somewhere in your system.
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
I like dejavu sans mono font, and I use this fond all the time.
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
Hello.
I installed Debian 10 a week ago and saw that fonts are ugly.
I use xfce desktop.
So i checked debian 10 xfce live and found that fonts are ugly too.
Then i checked debian 9 xfce live and found that fonts are beautiful.
Below are scrennshots:
from debian 10 xfce live:
https://images90.fotosik.pl/220/6723cfbe845e8048.png
https://images90.fotosik.pl/220/6713598b7159911b.png
https://images89.fotosik.pl/220/98b83e2164b256a9.png
from debian 9 xfce live:
https://images92.fotosik.pl/221/c92f3f615507e23c.png
https://images89.fotosik.pl/220/ef24bd83a60048cf.png
https://images89.fotosik.pl/220/0a3787d8b50c84cf.png
I am not very experienced user.
What to do to fix fonts in debian 10?
I installed Debian 10 a week ago and saw that fonts are ugly.
I use xfce desktop.
So i checked debian 10 xfce live and found that fonts are ugly too.
Then i checked debian 9 xfce live and found that fonts are beautiful.
Below are scrennshots:
from debian 10 xfce live:
https://images90.fotosik.pl/220/6723cfbe845e8048.png
https://images90.fotosik.pl/220/6713598b7159911b.png
https://images89.fotosik.pl/220/98b83e2164b256a9.png
from debian 9 xfce live:
https://images92.fotosik.pl/221/c92f3f615507e23c.png
https://images89.fotosik.pl/220/ef24bd83a60048cf.png
https://images89.fotosik.pl/220/0a3787d8b50c84cf.png
I am not very experienced user.
What to do to fix fonts in debian 10?
Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
I read in the update notes they changed the default setting for font hinting to "slight". You might want to change it back.
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
Hi, thanks for reply.axkibe wrote:I read in the update notes they changed the default setting for font hinting to "slight". You might want to change it back.
I already found that in /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-config/NEWS.Debian.gz
I already tried that and it did not help.
Weird thing is that when in xfce appearance fonts settings i change hinting from full to medium and reverse, nothing really changes.
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
Hello.
I found a solution.
You need to add to /etc/environment this:
and then run and set hinting to full.
Link to this solution was posted by user @Head_on_a_Stick in this thread, but for some reason it does not work for all fonts.
Because i use Liberation fonts this work only with fonts from package fonts-liberation, not fonts-liberation2
If you have both packages installed, then it's best to uninstall fonts-liberation2.
I found a solution.
You need to add to /etc/environment this:
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FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="truetype:interpreter-version=35"
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dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config
Link to this solution was posted by user @Head_on_a_Stick in this thread, but for some reason it does not work for all fonts.
Because i use Liberation fonts this work only with fonts from package fonts-liberation, not fonts-liberation2
If you have both packages installed, then it's best to uninstall fonts-liberation2.
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Re: What happened to the fonts? (Buster)
Hello.sickpig wrote:u r posting to a thread when buster was testing now its stable so maybe start a new thread?
I did not look at the date at all
But do I really have to create a separate thread?
I've already solved my problem.
I believe that this solution fits this thread perfectly.