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[Testing - Bookworm] Is there some hint as to when Trixie will begin to appear??

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[Testing - Bookworm] Is there some hint as to when Trixie will begin to appear??

#1 Post by este.el.paz »

Is there some hint as to when Trixie packages will begin to appear??

Question was posted in my other thread back in March, to which no reply was offered.

At that time for some "reason" my Bookworm install on my Sys76 laptop imploded and data became corrupted beyond all repair. At that time I was able to edit the sources.list from "bookworm" to "trixie," but as of today . . . accessing the system via TTY apt says "nothing found, nothing to do" ???

Do we have some general guesstimate on when trixie packages will be getting into the mix??

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Re: [Testing - Bookworm] Is there some hint as to when Trixie will begin to appear??

#2 Post by cds60601 »

My guess? I think there is a freeze on packages, so I am guessing shortly after the official release of 12. I suspect packages should then start being added to Sid, then probably to Testing shortly after.

As to setting your repo to Trixie, I don't think that's how it works. If you want the new packages with a certain amount of assurance they may not break, your sources might reflect testing.
If on the other hand, you want a closer to the actual release of the packages, you might use Sid in the sources. Of course, if you really want to be adventuress, there is also experimental however, I'm almost certain you don't want to mess with that.
Keep in mind, straying from Stable will almost certainly introduce possible issues (YMMV). The further away (forward) from Stable, the greater the risk of something going wrong.

Setting your sources to Trixie will do nothing until Trixie is officially released, that's my take anyways.
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Re: [Testing - Bookworm] Is there some hint as to when Trixie will begin to appear??

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este.el.paz wrote: 2023-06-03 19:01Is there some hint as to when Trixie packages will begin to appear?
Never. Debian 13 will not be called "Trixie". There should be some trixie packages available shortly after the next stable release though. Debian releases use lower case, only the Toy Story character has a capitalised first letter. And yes, the Debian Wiki also makes this mistake in several places.

Reference: https://lists.debian.org/debian-doc/200 ... 00310.html

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#4 Post by este.el.paz »

OK . . . well . . . right now in another machine I have a "bookworm" version, where "bookworm" is used in the sources.list. In that same machine I have "unstable" running as well . . . but I'm hanging on to the dregs of the "bookworm" install that "blew up" in this machine to see if "trixie" will revive it back into a Living system??

And, picking nits for fun and profit . . . in this machine I have the debian partition, or what was left of it, set to "trixie" . . . not Trixie . . . apologies for the mis-type.

So, if "trixie" isn't happening until after bookworm is "released" . . . do we have an ETA for that??

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2023-06-10.
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Re: [Testing - Bookworm] Is there some hint as to when Trixie will begin to appear??

#6 Post by este.el.paz »

Random_Troll wrote: 2023-06-03 20:59 2023-06-10.
OK, I guess I can wait a few days longer . . . after so many months, what's a few more days??? :shock: :shock: 8)

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Re: [Testing - Bookworm] Is there some hint as to when Trixie will begin to appear??

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Random_Troll wrote: 2023-06-03 20:18
este.el.paz wrote: 2023-06-03 19:01Is there some hint as to when Trixie packages will begin to appear?
Never. Debian 13 will not be called "Trixie". There should be some trixie packages available shortly after the next stable release though. Debian releases use lower case, only the Toy Story character has a capitalised first letter. And yes, the Debian Wiki also makes this mistake in several places.

Reference: https://lists.debian.org/debian-doc/200 ... 00310.html

Check the mirror itself for the available distributions: http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/
Apparently the Debian site located at https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/ is incorrect? Who knows. I say its not.
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cds60601 wrote: 2023-06-03 22:06Apparently the Debian site located at https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/ is incorrect?
I don't understand your point. That page uses lower case for the name :?

Did you read my mailing list link? I can't think of many greater appeals to authority than Osamu Aoki :-)
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Re: [Testing - Bookworm] Is there some hint as to when Trixie will begin to appear??

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Random_Troll wrote: 2023-06-03 22:11
cds60601 wrote: 2023-06-03 22:06Apparently the Debian site located at https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/ is incorrect?
I don't understand your point. That page uses lower case for the name :?

Did you read my mailing list link? I can't think of many greater appeals to authority than Osamu Aoki :-)
Symantics wheather a user caps or all lower case. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases
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That's the Wiki, which is user edited. The main debian.org sites are written by the developers ;)
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Random_Troll wrote: 2023-06-03 22:35
That's the Wiki, which is user edited. The main debian.org sites are written by the developers ;)
I guess time will tell. It does not matter to me either way since I run Sid. The point of my reply was to guide the op to the proper entries pending the decision on the op wants for packages. Either way, the op has to wait for something
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cds60601 wrote: 2023-06-03 22:48I run Sid
I think you mean "sid" :mrgreen:
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Random_Troll wrote: 2023-06-03 22:53
cds60601 wrote: 2023-06-03 22:48I run Sid
I think you mean "sid" :mrgreen:
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#14 Post by este.el.paz »

some guyz get stuck in a rut . . . and cant break away from it . . . jes sayin.

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Random_Troll wrote: 2023-06-03 20:592023-06-10.
Provided they open the floodgates on 6/10 Testing shouldn't see any new packages until 6/15 or so.
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Re: [Testing - Bookworm] Is there some hint as to when Trixie will begin to appear??

#16 Post by craigevil »

/etc/issue was updated here the day Bookworm was released.
cat /etc/issue.net
Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid

cat /etc/issue
Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid \n \l

Code: Select all

OS: Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid aarch64 
Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0 
Kernel: 6.1.32-v8+ 
Uptime: 23 hours, 46 mins 
Packages: 2963 (dpkg), 54 (flatpak), 6 (snap) 
Shell: bash 5.2.15 
Resolution: 1920x1080 
DE: Xfce 4.18 
WM: Xfwm4 
WM Theme: Orchis-Dark-Compact 
Theme: Orchis-Dark-Compact [GTK2/3] 
Icons: ePapirus-Dark [GTK2/3] 
Terminal: guake 
CPU: Cortex-A72 (4) @ 2.000GHz 
GPU: V3D 4.2 
Memory: 1558MiB / 3793MiB 

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Re: [Testing - Bookworm] Is there some hint as to when Trixie will begin to appear??

#17 Post by este.el.paz »

craigevil wrote: 2023-06-13 13:44 /etc/issue was updated here the day Bookworm was released.
cat /etc/issue.net
Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid

cat /etc/issue
Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid \n \l

Code: Select all

OS: Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid aarch64 
Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0 
Kernel: 6.1.32-v8+ 
Uptime: 23 hours, 46 mins 
Packages: 2963 (dpkg), 54 (flatpak), 6 (snap) 
Shell: bash 5.2.15 
Resolution: 1920x1080 
DE: Xfce 4.18 
WM: Xfwm4 
WM Theme: Orchis-Dark-Compact 
Theme: Orchis-Dark-Compact [GTK2/3] 
Icons: ePapirus-Dark [GTK2/3] 
Terminal: guake 
CPU: Cortex-A72 (4) @ 2.000GHz 
GPU: V3D 4.2 
Memory: 1558MiB / 3793MiB 
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Thanks for the post on it, I have on my calendar to check on the 15th, but if I get a free moment I might try it before then. See if that will revive the debian install I have on my Sys76 laptop that committed seppuku some months back . . . . Hopefully trixie will breathe new life into the system.

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