Staying with Debian 11

[Fossy]

Considering Shiny New Stuff is not our business , the only thing I am watching closely is ;
Debian 11 : Supported by security as well as release teams To be defined: roughly July 2024 to June 2026
As long as this is in effect I see no reason to switch hastily to Bookworm .

Edit : please don't get me wrong, I'm not inherently anti-bookworm, it's just my personal pragmatic approach.

especially since I never switch to a new operating system until as long as Bosa Belgium has released the new eID packages : https://eid.belgium.be/nl/linux-eid-sof ... nstallatie

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[hogrbe]

Interesting how user experiences can vary. I use Debian 10, both on server and desktop and recently installed Debian 12 on a new desktop, skipping Debian 11 entirely for some reason.

[bester69]

I will stay with Debian 11, i think we should upgrade only when 2 cycles debian... i will upgrade to Debian 13 in three or four years

[bester69]

Agreed. updating for the sake of upgrading is bad juju.

I have a whole list of reasons why newer is not necessarily better.

I'm gonna hold onto 11 for as long as I can. Am gonna stretch it till at least 2026...longer if I can get away with it.

I agree, well done

[sdibaja]

Now that Debian 12 has been in use by the vast majority for ages, with little or no glitches, I see no compelling reason to avoid upgrading.
In my little world: none of my "consumers" have made any complaints.
A couple have expressed happiness with the newer features with the Mate desktop.

I have been pretty busy, so the lone D10 machine (wife's laptop) is still on my ToDo list.
however I have decided to do a fresh clean install rather than upgrading it. I have no desire to have a complainant over any lingering cruft.

[CwF]

Now that Debian 12 has been in use by the vast majority for ages, with little or no glitches, I see no compelling reason to avoid upgrading.

I generally agree. I've seen only improvement with 11>12 upgrades with no gotcha's. The same can't be said for earlier upgrades.
I still use a stretch 24/7/365 that will be replaced with a bookworm that is built. I did not qualify the replacement with 10 or 11 but 12 looks good. The 9 will simply be turned off someday.
I still have a buster in use that was the stretch replacement but is much more hacky and crufted up, it also will simply be turned off. 2 others have been 12 for over a year and 3 more went to 12 at release. When I'm down to 5 golden base images based on 12, 2 will move to trixie for which I have no expectation. The 3 12's will then be it until past 2028 I expect.

Note that I've avoided usrmerge in my 12's with no issue so far and that is the ONE gotcha. I do have 11.7's to fall back on to re-upgrade after I determine trixie's issues with usrmerge. I typed out at least a year ago I expect 12 to be it.

[NFT5]

I moved my desktop to 12 after Syncthing would no longer work in the 11 edition. At the same time I moved two notebooks to Debian 12 and they've been rock solid but the desktop has issues. File server, media server and a couple of other desktops are still solid on 11 and I see no point in moving those until I find the cause of the problems.

So, my experience, so far, has been mixed.

[sdibaja]

Syncthing not working? Wow. That's strange.
I use syncthing on all of my systems..., D10, 11, 12, and Sid. Never had a problem with any of them.

[pjmbraet]

As long as it is supported:
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldOldStable
I am (just for fun and completely offline) using Jessie. Downloaded all dvd ISO's.
Debian 8 Jessie still has among other dead software system-config-lvm. Nostalgia.
Found a mistake in the wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/LVM
system-config-lvm is still mentioned there

[friendlysalmon88]

After Distro hopping between Fedora,Manjaro,Antix anda slew of other distros, I came back to Debian as Debian was the first distribution that I started out on back in 2001 or 2002 which was in the time frame when you where required to use bw43-cutter in order to get a broadcom based WiFi or Ethernet card working.