[Discussion] Which application, now defunct in Debian, do you remember fondly?

[Bulkley]

Dayplanner
Radiotray
GKSU
Leafpad
Obmenu


I'm cheating here on the first two. I'm still using Debian 10 which has them.

[el_koraco]

Amarok is the best music player on any platform ever. But aren't they just kind of slow porting it to QT5 and 6? I don't think it's dead.

[Linuxgaming1824]

+1 gksu

now I used sudo mousepad

[oswaldkelso]

For all those missing leafpad you may like l3afpad

https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/l3afpad

[wizard10000]

+1 gksu

now I used sudo mousepad

Please be careful using sudo to launch graphical applications.

Unless you use sudo -i or sudo --login the root account is working in *your* environment which means that files created or edited by the graphical application will be owned by root but stored in *your* home directory. This is a major cause of broken permissions in a user's home directory

sudo -i will run the root account in root's environment and will ensure that any config changes made by root are stored in root's home directory instead of your home directory

edit: If you liked gksu you might want to try lxqt-sudo as I am also allergic to policykit Highly recommended that you install it with --no-install-recommends so it doesn't pull in most of lxqt

[Linuxgaming1824]

wizard10000 it's a multi-user system for a reason! let them be free!

edit: I will try it...

sudo mousepad -i

It's annoying to me though, I constantly use sudo mousepad I think it's far more comfortable to use
than a terminal editor...

there is ofc kate

but I don't play games with kde anymore ; ' (

I literally use sudo mousepad out of all the commands I use like 95% of the time
the other 5% is apt
and everything else is working in mousepad
(I've never had a problem with it yet)

[CwF]

Please be careful using sudo to launch graphical applications.

Actually there is no good reason to use sudo at all for this.

Xfce's mousepad is setup for polkit ootb.

[CwF]

edit: I will try it...

sudo mousepad -i

Why...no rational reason.

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$ pkexec mousepad

[Linuxgaming1824]

Honestly it's fine to me if root wants to edit files in my home directory

since I am the root...

[wizard10000]

sudo mousepad -i

It's annoying to me though, I constantly use sudo mousepad I think it's far more comfortable to use
than a terminal editor...

there is ofc kate

but I don't play games with kde anymore ; ' (

I literally use sudo mousepad out of all the commands I use like 95% of the time
the other 5% is apt
and everything else is working in mousepad
(I've never had a problem with it yet)

Actually that would be sudo -i mousepad

But - mousepad stores its settings in dconf, not a config file so you're probably okay.

The reason we don't run graphical applications as plain sudo is that any config change made to that application will be in your home directory but will be owned by root so any changes your non-root user makes won't survive a logoff. sudo -i forces the application to use root's environment instead of yours.

[wizard10000]

Actually there is no good reason to use sudo at all for this.

Agreed, other than my aforementioned policykit allergy but even I'll admit that's not a *good* reason

My point was that I see someone who's used sudo to run a graphical application fairly often and they invariably wonder why any settings change they make to that application as an unprivileged user doesn't survive a logoff since root owns the config.

JMO but *nothing* in a user's home directory should be owned by root.

[Linuxgaming1824]

Do you remember when the home directory was implemented? I'm trying to remember the exact year I noticed it in linux, but my brain is real fuzzy from time to time

Sometimes I try and revert a lot of these "new" implementations actually and restore actual *Unix* like behavior