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Immutable Bkworm

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Immutable Bkworm

#1 Post by pwzhangzz »

Recently many of my friends have expressed an interest in Fedora Silverblue; however, it seems pretty easy and actually straightforward to extend Debian into a similarly "immutable" OS.

There is nothing new or fancy about an immutable Debian. But what I have been doing is to create a custom live bkworm iso and boot from this customized live iso file, which can reside in HD/SSD or a usb stick. This process is very simple. One step better than silverblue, this immutable Debian system can be optionally made with persistency (via multiple boot). The persistency can also be stored in the main machine or in a portable usb. But our main goal is to create an immutable bkworm iso without the need for persistency. That is, truly immutable.

(to be continued)
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Re: [Off-Topic] Immutable Bkworm

#2 Post by wizard10000 »

I'm gonna move this to General Debian - I don't think it's off-topic at all. I also took the [Off-Topic] out of the thread title :)
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Re: Immutable Bkworm

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For anyone interested, a link to Silverblue. Frankly, I don't see any advantage for a solo user, but might be convenient for a household or small firm. Bear in mind, container apps mean large updates.

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Re: Immutable Bkworm

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pbear wrote: 2024-05-14 03:38 For anyone interested, a link to Silverblue. Frankly, I don't see any advantage for a solo user, but might be convenient for a household or small firm. Bear in mind, container apps mean large updates.
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Re: Immutable Bkworm

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pbear wrote: 2024-05-14 03:38 For anyone interested, a link to Silverblue. Frankly, I don't see any advantage for a solo user, but might be convenient for a household or small firm. Bear in mind, container apps mean large updates.
Been reading on this and frankly, I see no use for this for home users or even small businesses.

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Re: Immutable Bkworm

#6 Post by unix_joe »

Augie77 wrote: 2024-05-14 11:41
pbear wrote: 2024-05-14 03:38 For anyone interested, a link to Silverblue. Frankly, I don't see any advantage for a solo user, but might be convenient for a household or small firm. Bear in mind, container apps mean large updates.
Been reading on this and frankly, I see no use for this for home users or even small businesses.
The immutable desktop is an enterprise solution being pushed by the two largest companies with enterprise contracts (Red Hat/SuSE) who have to meet certain standards for cloud deployment. Kiosks, FIPS, finance, secure government, etc. In fact, it meets a certain use case for a major project I'm assisting at work and we will use Fedora Gnome Atomic.

The people who use immutable distributions are almost certainly going to access them through a web browser on their MacBooks.

It's not really intended as a solution for people who would use a baremetal desktop Linux install, or need to edit doas.conf or a hosts file. We are a rounding error.

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Re: Immutable Bkworm

#7 Post by bin »

It's called Endless OS https://www.endlessos.org/os and in some circles it is popular. In fairness it's probably not going to appeal to the mainstream linux community but that is not its target audience. If you want a linux 'appliance' then it's worth a look provided you can tolerate Gnome an all Flatpak environment. Think of it more as an android type of experience.

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