The system freezes, I'm on a debian fork, specifically loc-os, in antix it happens also

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The system freezes, I'm on a debian fork, specifically loc-os, in antix it happens also

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Hi guys, I am experiencing random system freezes, the forks are based on debian 12, in both fork forums they tried to help me, but it seems to be something deeper, those forks use sysv, the freezes happen when editing documents and sometimes when leaving the computer idle, (once it froze on the login screen in antix), the hardware works fine on windows xp and windows 8. 1, although in the latter also happened sometimes freezes, these were caused by forcing the installation of a modified driver, to uninstall it works normal windows 8. 1, and try with memtest86 12 hours and did not throw errors, but there is something that left me confused, one day to turn on the machine did not boot or the fork loc-os or windows, the first I do not remember what it said all but the latter was “system handled” in windows gave a screen of death with the error “kernel_mode_exception_not_handled”, I thought I had to reinstall everything, but I found a video that blamed the error to the rams, remove one and the screen did not give video, turn off and on and gave video, clean the 2 rams with rubber eraser to see if that was responsible and yes, with one or the 2 or the other different booted normal everything, this was before the memtest86 tests.

from where I would have to look for the culprit of this, because sometimes it takes a long time to freeze, sometimes after 15 minutes of turning on it freezes.
Hardware (this was in antix):

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System:
  Kernel: 5.10.197-antix.1-486-smp arch: i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    clocksource: acpi_pm
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.197-antix.1-486-smp
    root=UUID=166ccd90-d434-4938-8f3f-bd4979572695 ro quiet selinux=0
  Desktop: IceWM v: 3.4.6 dm: slimski v: 1.5.0 Distro: antiX-23.1_386-full
    Arditi del Popolo 21 February 2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite L35 v: PSL33U-03X02E
    serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 serial: N/A
  Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Satellite L35 serial: <filter> BIOS: TOSHIBA v: 2.80
    date: 03/05/2007
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 6.2 Wh (100.0%) condition: 6.2/29.6 Wh (20.9%)
    volts: 16.4 min: 14.8 model: TOSHIBA PA3450U-1BRS type: Li-ion
    serial: <filter> status: full
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel T2080 socket: U23 bits: 32 type: MCP arch: M Yonah
    built: 2006-08 process: Intel 65nm family: 6 model-id: 0xE (14)
    stepping: 0xC (12) microcode: 0x5B
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 128 KiB
    desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 1x1024 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 800/1733 base/boost: 1730/1730 scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil volts: 2.2 V ext-clock: 100 MHz
    cores: 1: 800 2: 800 bogomips: 6933
  Flags: ht nx pae sse sse2 sse3
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported
  Type: l1tf status: Vulnerable
  Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode;
    SMT disabled
  Type: meltdown status: Vulnerable
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Not affected
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD RC410M [Mobility Radeon Xpress 200M] vendor: Toshiba
    driver: radeon v: kernel alternate: radeonfb arch: Rage-8 code: R300
    process: TSMC 130nm built: 2002-07 ports: active: LVDS-1 empty: VGA-1
    bus-ID: 01:05.0 chip-ID: 1002:5a62 class-ID: 0300
  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: radeon
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: r300 gpu: radeon display-ID: :0.0
    screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1280x800 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 338x211mm (13.31x8.31")
    s-diag: 398mm (15.69")
  Monitor-1: LVDS-1 mapped: LVDS model: LG Philips 0xc800 built: 2006
    res: 1280x800 hz: 60 dpi: 98 gamma: 1.2 size: 331x207mm (13.03x8.15")
    diag: 390mm (15.4") ratio: 16:10 modes: max: 1280x800 min: 640x480
  API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: amd r300 platforms: device: 0 egl: 1.4 drv: r300
    device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: egl: 1.4 drv: r300 surfaceless: egl: 1.4
    drv: r300 x11: egl: 1.4 drv: r300 inactive: wayland
  API: OpenGL v: 2.1 vendor: x.org mesa v: 22.3.6 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 2.0
    direct-render: yes renderer: ATI RC410 device-ID: 1002:5a62 memory: 125 MiB
    unified: no
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio vendor: Toshiba
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:437b
    class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k5.10.197-antix.1-486-smp status: kernel-api with: apulse
    type: pulse-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.3 status: n/a (root, process) with:
    1: pipewire-pulse status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pw-jack
    type: plugin tools: pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
  Server-2: PulseAudio v: 16.1 status: off (using pipewire-pulse)
    tools: pacat,pactl,pavucontrol
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
    vendor: Toshiba driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 modules: 8139cp port: a000
    bus-ID: 09:02.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8139 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR2413/AR2414 Wireless Network Adapter
    [AR5005G 802.11bg] vendor: Askey driver: ath5k v: kernel bus-ID: 09:04.0
    chip-ID: 168c:001a class-ID: 0200
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 111.79 GiB used: 17.2 GiB (15.4%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Hitachi model: HTS541612J9SA00
    family: Travelstar 5K160 size: 111.79 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 1.5 Gb/s tech: N/A serial: <filter> fw-rev: C70P
    temp: 38 C scheme: MBR
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 261d 1h cycles: 4072
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 21 GiB size: 20.5 GiB (97.63%) used: 7.42 GiB (36.2%)
    fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3
  ID-2: /home raw-size: 86.79 GiB size: 85.25 GiB (98.22%)
    used: 9.78 GiB (11.5%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sda4
    maj-min: 8:4
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100)
    zswap: no
  ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 688.2 MiB used: 2.8 MiB (0.4%) priority: 5
    comp: lzo-rle avail: lzo,lz4,lz4hc,842,zstd max-streams: 2 dev: /dev/zram0
  ID-2: swap-2 type: zram size: 688.2 MiB used: 2.8 MiB (0.4%) priority: 5
    comp: lzo-rle avail: lzo,lz4,lz4hc,842,zstd max-streams: 2 dev: /dev/zram1
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
  Processes: 143 Uptime: 41m wakeups: 0 Memory: total: 1.5 GiB note: est.
  available: 1.34 GiB used: 822.4 MiB (59.8%) igpu: 128 KiB Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 2 default: 2 tool: service Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 1878 libs: 908 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,synaptic
  Shell: Sudo (sudo) v: 1.9.13p3 default: Bash v: 5.2.15 running-in: roxterm
  inxi: 3.3.31
check the internet and others blame the cpu, ram, gpu, .etc. I tried their solutions and they had no effect, what do they suggest me to do? :)
something extra to all this is that this old graphic has no hardware acceleration, in games like openarena there are graphic errors and in the console it repeats “r300 driver missing”.

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Re: The system freezes, I'm on a debian fork, specifically loc-os, in antix it happens also

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JhonJesus wrote: 2024-10-11 00:09 forks are based on debian 12
...are discussed in Off-Topic
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Re: The system freezes, I'm on a debian fork, specifically loc-os, in antix it happens also

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CwF wrote: 2024-10-11 01:01
JhonJesus wrote: 2024-10-11 00:09 forks are based on debian 12
...are discussed in Off-Topic
sorry I took it differently

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Re: The system freezes, I'm on a debian fork, specifically loc-os, in antix it happens also

#4 Post by sunrat »

Please use code tags for terminal text output etc. Fixed it for you this time.

It does sound like a hardware issue if it happens on several distros as well as Windows.
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Re: The system freezes, I'm on a debian fork, specifically loc-os, in antix it happens also

#5 Post by JhonJesus »

sunrat wrote: 2024-10-11 03:34 Please use code tags for terminal text output etc. Fixed it for you this time.

It does sound like a hardware issue if it happens on several distros as well as Windows.
the problem with windows came with an outdated video driver to windows version, I modified a driver to bring small functions that improve some performance, these uninstalled do not cause errors, the first thing I did not understand well, I use #tags like #freeze?
In a telegram group about linux they told me that it can be because of static energy, they told me that linux is a bit more sensitive to that, that windows can recover from 1 second of blocking, linux can't, but you can still move the mouse, false for my case, if i'm listening to music the music freezes, besides i'm using an external keyboard, when everything freezes, the keyboard still receives some power, if i try to run something the keyboard led is paid, if i disconnect and connect i can't get the keyboard to receive power again, if or if i have to reboot.

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