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Cookies Decline - Accept box appears every page load

#1 Post by lamixer »

Hello!

For the purposes of visiting this forum I generally use Firefox on MacOS. I use EFF Privacy Badger and NoScript. Privacy badger shows 'no trackers blocked' and NoScirpt is showing scripts being requested (which I have allowd) from plethora.debian.net and ajax.googleapis.com.

Firefox "Enhanced Tracking Protection" is set to Custom with Cookie setting to block only from 'unvisited web sites'.

Every time I load a new page on the forum the large cookie permission box appears in the lower rigth corner. Whether I press Decline or Accept or 'To the Cookie-Settings' (where I subsequently save what I prefer to accept) the box will disappear but then return.

Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks.

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#2 Post by Uptorn »

uBlock Origin -> Element zapper -> highlight the offending popover -> "Create filter"

or

uMatrix -> Allow only cookies, CSS and images. (Javascript not required if you've memorized BB code)

Privacy Badger is a bit redundant if you're already using something as powerful as NoScript.

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#3 Post by donald »

That cookie thing is super annoying! I'd love to get rid of it, but think we need to it so that we do not run afoul of any e-regulation somewhere in the world. Perhaps we just add it to the rules thread that cookies and outside font calls are used here ... the problem is no one really reads fine print. :)

Our use:

Cookies are standard cookies they should be from: forums.debian.net.

Scripts/Api (ours): plethora.debian.net which is the name of the host that these forums are running on.

Fonts: Google/Font Awesome. These calls are from the themes/styles. Design creators develop different styles/themes, instead of including fonts in the package they link to freemium or other online font libraries.

Generally we try to stay as privacy minded as we can but some things are still unavoidable. :(
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#4 Post by Bulkley »

In addition to uBlockOrigin I have a browser extension called "I don't care about cookies ." It's not perfect but it gets rid of a lot of those cookie permission popups.

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#5 Post by sunrat »

Bulkley wrote: 2024-11-17 19:30 In addition to uBlockOrigin I have a browser extension called "I don't care about cookies ." It's not perfect but it gets rid of a lot of those cookie permission popups.
Great extensions! However, "I don't care about cookies" was acquired by Avast a while back and there is now a community fork called "I still don't care about cookies" - https://github.com/OhMyGuus/I-Still-Don ... ut-Cookies , works well here.

And even better, I just discovered the functionality is inbuilt in uBlock Origin anyway. In Preferences, under "Filter lists > Cookie notices" you can choose "EasyList/uBO – Cookie Notices" or "AdGuard/uBO – Cookie Notices". I disabled "I still don't care about cookies" and will give this a spin to see if it's as effective. Less extensions is better, right? :wink:

Also came across this, functionality built native in Firefox? Not tested here yet:
cookiebanners.service.mode 1

cookiebanners.service.mode.privateBrowsing 1

This is Firefox native, so expect it to be the fastest implemention that no addons even come close.
Of course if you block cookies, you may have to log in to websites every visit.
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#6 Post by Bulkley »

sunrat wrote: 2024-11-17 22:11 "I don't care about cookies" was acquired by Avast a while back and there is now a community fork called "I still don't care about cookies" - https://github.com/OhMyGuus/I-Still-Don ... ut-Cookies , works well here.
Hey, thanks for the tip.

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#7 Post by lamixer »

Hmm. FIrst, thanks for the replies and mentions of ways to actively block cookie banners like you have. I have no problem accepting your use of cookies.

Second -- are you confirming that for people without special settings/extensions the cookie Decline/Allow pop-over box in the lower right corner appears on every page load? I would expect that if I click "Accept" then you will store a cookie that says I accepted it so next time a forum page is loaded, the web server knows I have accepted the cookies and it does not ask again.

That is the behaviour I have experience on probably EVERY other web site I have used in the last five years or so. Also, I am a logged-in user. Couldn't we at least have the acceptance of cookies permission last the duration of the login session, avoiding the need to cover a large portion of my forum window with a redundant question?

Clearly, a regular user of the forum will not tolerate having to click accept on every page load, nor just work around the portion of the screen one cannot see.

If this is all as you intend it, please consider adding a cookie to store the state of acceptance of cookies thus preventing the appearance of the box asking about cookies each page load. Thank you.

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#8 Post by sunrat »

You say it pops up for every page you load? Certainly doesn't for me. The only way I can imagine that happening is if the cookie is not saved.
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#9 Post by lamixer »

The Firefox developer tool storage inspector shows I have four cookies from the page:

forumdebian_cook_k value is a series of lowercase letters and number maybe 14 characters long
forumdebian_cook_sid value is a longer series of numbers looking more like hex
forumdebian_cook_u value is a six digit number
klaro value a string that looks a little like a url but with %22s and refers to essential / true / youtube

The expiration of the first three are about three days in the future. The klaro cookie looks as if it has expired immediately.

[edit -- the klaro cookie is actually good for one year]

Thanks!
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#10 Post by lamixer »

Hmm... After a few days I returned to the forum to see if I had any further replies and didn't receive an email notification... but I had not. Then I noticed -- I'm still logged in and the cookie permission box did not appear!

So, this must have been some sort of glitch unless something changed on your end (unlikely) in the past few days. It almost seems that the action of interrogating my cookies in Firefox kicked in to working propertly.

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#11 Post by friendlysalmon88 »

I only have to re login to the Debian forums if I've either do a fresh installation of after I've installed another browser and haven't loaded up my password manager of choice1password.

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