Hardware Vendor Lock (AMD PSB etc.)

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Hardware Vendor Lock (AMD PSB etc.)

#1 Post by Michael_ »


I didn't even know that this exists.
Is this AMD only or does Intel have it's own equivalent?
How do i know if a Vendor uses it or not? Is it mentioned in the specs or do i have to ask?
The guy in the video said that Supermicro and HP are not using it while Lenovo and Dell are using it.

I will buy a new workstation most likely in Q1 2025 and i was interested in the Lenovo Thinkstation P7 (Intel not AMD).
But if the P7 is using this too i will definitely go with supermicro or hp. (I tend to supermicro anyway's)

If somebody knows more about this subject please let me know :)

BTW:
I think this is ridiculous and should be outlawed for environmental reasons alone. (And i'm not a tree hugger by any means.)

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Re: Hardware Vendor Lock (AMD PSB etc.)

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Michael_ wrote: 2024-12-06 17:22 I didn't even know that this exists.
Is this AMD only or does Intel have it's own equivalent?
How do i know if a Vendor uses it or not? Is it mentioned in the specs or do i have to ask?
The guy in the video said that Supermicro and HP are not using it while Lenovo and Dell are using it.
What is "it"?
Be great if you could provide a summary of what you are talking about rather than asking readers to watch a 21 minute video.
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Re: Hardware Vendor Lock (AMD PSB etc.)

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sunrat wrote: 2024-12-06 21:06
Michael_ wrote: 2024-12-06 17:22 I didn't even know that this exists.
Is this AMD only or does Intel have it's own equivalent?
How do i know if a Vendor uses it or not? Is it mentioned in the specs or do i have to ask?
The guy in the video said that Supermicro and HP are not using it while Lenovo and Dell are using it.
What is "it"?
Be great if you could provide a summary of what you are talking about rather than asking readers to watch a 21 minute video.
I linked the video in a way so that it starts at the relevant point.

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#4 Post by Dai_trying »

Michael_ wrote: 2024-12-07 04:44
sunrat wrote: 2024-12-06 21:06 What is "it"?
Be great if you could provide a summary of what you are talking about rather than asking readers to watch a 21 minute video.
I linked the video in a way so that it starts at the relevant point.
I always read my rss feed before coming on site here and when reading your post it contained very little information about the content, I too would like to know what it is about without having to watch a video, a simple breakdown of key points of the video would suffice, but something in text would also help search engines find correct information.

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#5 Post by Michael_ »

Well a quick summary is that if a Vendor like Lenovo uses AMD PSB you cannot pull the CPU and put it in a Computer from a different brand.
I wanna know:

1. If the CPU breaks can you replace it with a regular retail cpu or do you have to buy a replacement from the Vendor of your Machine
2. Is this only an AMD thing or does Intel have a feature like this aswell? (I think it's AMD only but i'm not sure)

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Thanks for the info. I didn't click on the links or watch any video. I'm not sure why you posted this in a debian user forum?

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bw123 wrote: 2024-12-07 23:08 ...I'm not sure why you posted this in a debian user forum?...
True dat. Not specifically related to Debian. Moved to Off-Topic.

Looks like a good reason to avoid systems using AMD PSB, although at $20,000 for the system in the video it's not in contention for me. I never buy pre-built systems, would never buy Apple or similar systems anyway for similar reasons. Vendor lock-in sucks.
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