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Which Browser do you use?

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Which web browser do you use?

Firefox
117
70%
Chrome
10
6%
Brave
10
6%
Opera
1
1%
Microsoft Edge
2
1%
Vivaldi
8
5%
Chromium
6
4%
Konqueror
0
No votes
Nyxt/Lynx
0
No votes
Other
13
8%
 
Total votes: 167

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#41 Post by canci »

You can always score points with other people when they tell you their problem and you immediately reply with: "Doesn't concern me" or "They've never done anything wrong to me" -- no matter how relevant this is to the conversation. :lol:
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#42 Post by Onsemeliot »

I mostly configure Firefox ESR to delete all cookies each time I close it and I add Privacy Badger, AdBlocker Ultimate and search using DuckDuckGo. In addition for more private stuff I use Tor and for the rare stuff that needs less restrictive settings I use Chromium without any modifications. On very weak old systems I go for Midori.

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#43 Post by steve_v »

oswaldkelso wrote: 2022-02-05 00:33 your comment had me wondering if every other reader has been poking their eyes out with you.
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#44 Post by bester69 »

brave browser is a wonderfull one for me, i dont even update it.. when some version works like a charm.. is better dont update it ever..

for me a good browser is one that gives me a wonderfull experience.. soft navegation, quickly response rendering, no lags, no crashes..great user interface, fast openning up, productive addons.. and all of that comes onboard with brave-browser,, even i can sync bookmarks among devices, so ive my bookmarks synchronized in movil.. I used to like opera but too much unstability and interface changes between versions..
firefox is a great browser but i never get used to it...futhermore many extension breaks very easily with each new browser upgrade.. I think chromium engine is more powefull and suitable for user environment

I would give 10 to brave and 6,5 to firefox
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#45 Post by LE_746F6D617A7A69 »

bester69 wrote: 2022-03-06 16:20 even i can sync bookmarks among devices
Uhm, Google and Mozilla have exactly the same functionality - it is used to track You, independently of which device You're using.
Anyway, I know that I won't change Your mind ... ;)

I'm using FF with TOR proxy by default (with defined exceptions, like for Debian Forums), and Chromium for sites that are blocking TOR, but in most cases I simply resign from visiting websites which are TOR-unfriendly.

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#46 Post by murdock2525 »

# I use brave beta
#2 a Librewolf setup NOT to wipe cookies-history on shutdown so I don't need to redo passwords on startup
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#47 Post by alexus23 »

Over many years I have tried many, if not most, browsers. Lately I use Firefox-esr almost exclusively. Any others are simply experiments driven by curiosity.

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#48 Post by cynwulf »

Web browsers such as Brave browser prey on the gullible - looking at Brave's tag line:

"Browse privately. Search privately. And ditch Big Tech."

It uses the "privacy" buzzword and the phrase "Big Tech" in order to market itself as an alternative to the likes of Chrome and Edge and the telemetry they are bundled with.

As Brave comes with telemetry and google services such as safebrowsing - and the underlying browser (chromium project) is certainly a "Big Tech" project, I'm not sure how using Brave amounts to ditching "Big Tech" nor being significantly more private than using e.g. Edge or Opera.

Many of the "free" commercial browsers on offer today are obviously "free as in you're the project" offerings. Quite a few more are just outright "snake oil" products, usually forks of Firefox or Chrome, with countless other problems.

The solutions, is not to trust your privacy and data to a company or individual with a shiny logo or catchy slogan, but to do the research and then take the necessary steps.

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#49 Post by vicshrike »

cynwulf wrote: 2022-03-09 17:00The solutions, is not to trust your privacy and data to a company or individual with a shiny logo or catchy slogan, but to do the research and then take the necessary steps.
As simple as that. And yes, Firefox.

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#50 Post by kedaha »

I recently came across this article: choose-your-browser-carefully, which makes interesting reading. I concur with the author, who concludes that tweaking-firefox is the best solution but would, of course, recommend Debian's firefox-esr.
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#51 Post by Nili »

What browser?
Firefox 100 on Linux
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#52 Post by LE_746F6D617A7A69 »

kedaha wrote: 2022-03-10 07:58 I recently came across this article: choose-your-browser-carefully, which makes interesting reading. I concur with the author, who concludes that tweaking-firefox is the best solution but would, of course, recommend Debian's firefox-esr.
Regarding the DoH servers, they are apparently disabled in the Debian version of Firefox ESR:

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#53 Post by Bulkley »

After reading kedaha's post and links I installed the arkenfox /user.js . So far it looks good.

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#54 Post by kedaha »

Bulkley wrote: 2022-03-11 20:56 After reading kedaha's post and links I installed the arkenfox /user.js . So far it looks good.
Same here.
By the way, if the user.js-notify.sh script is used to know about updates via a desktop notification, you may get:

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#55 Post by LE_746F6D617A7A69 »

Bulkley wrote: 2022-03-11 20:56 After reading kedaha's post and links I installed the arkenfox /user.js . So far it looks good.
This still applies:
viewtopic.php?p=623531#p623531

Firefox can be made safe, and unlike in case of various forks, it correctly handles the extensions.

I'm not defending the Mozilla corporation - they have changed their flag, but Firefox ESR is getting the security updates, and it can be tweaked to the point where it is stopped from spying the users (see the above link)

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#56 Post by kedaha »

For anyone interested, I've posted a few notes in howtos at: Harden Firefox with the Arkenfox user.js Template, to simplify setting up the template by means of a few commands rather than downloading and copying the files in a GUI file manager.
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#57 Post by bester69 »

Nili wrote: 2022-03-10 17:08 What browser?
Firefox 100 on Linux
✓ Your web browser is up to date :)
I dont need to be up to date but works faster responsive rendering, feel smooth and be productive and stable...

My own politics are to update apps only when is needed.. I think a good browser version should be used for at least one or two years... I dont update my everyday browser ever.. it takes me much time to get a good version browser i feel confortable with.. only update it when i detect some obsolescence or dangerous threat coming up..indeed I keep a backup of specific versions of needed apps i worth and use, to install them if ive to resintall system...
In my android phone ive disabled automatic updates for same reason; if an specific app is working like i like it, i dont want any unxpected changes that disturb my tranquility :?
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#58 Post by sunrat »

bester69 wrote: 2022-03-17 14:29I think a good browser version should be used for at least one or two years... I dont update my everyday browser ever..
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#59 Post by Shamak »

I use Firefox Stable (the current release) installed from the Mozilla binaries (installed into my home folder) because of the privacy features and because it syncs with Firefox Mobil.

I'm afraid of Chrome being installed as a .deb as I read that it's tough to find and fix any screw ups in a Debian installation.

I don't use Chromium (except as a backup browser) because it doesn't have the ability to sync bookmarks and history.

I don't use Firefox-esr because it doesn't have several security features that Firefox Stable now has. I think that the security risk in Firefox-esr is greater than the risk that Firefox from the Mozilla binaries (not having been reviewed by Debian) will mess with my system somehow. Just to be very clear I'm referring to security features not security updates. For example Firefox Stable has site isolation now whereas Firefox-esr does not.
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#60 Post by Trihexagonal »

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