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Re: Visit your profile to choose a flag.

#21 Post by fabien »

Random_Troll wrote: 2023-05-27 10:16

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<svg width="32px" height="32px" viewBox="0 0 32 32">
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      <path d="M 0,5 32,5 32,27 0,27 Z"/>
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Oh, the Annares flag. Nice.

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Re: Visit your profile to choose a flag.

#22 Post by donald »

@Random_Troll I tried the above via a quick html page and it only prints as a black flag with no color. Is that correct?


edit: @fabien posted as I was typing, so apparently I am doing something wrong.
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#23 Post by Random_Troll »

donald wrote: 2023-05-27 20:20it only prints as a black flag with no color. Is that correct?
Yes, that is correct. The Anarchist flag is plain black.

@fabien, I haven't read that book but I will now; Annares sounds like somewhere I should be living :-)
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Re: Visit your profile to choose a flag.

#24 Post by donald »

Random_Troll wrote: 2023-05-27 20:22
donald wrote: 2023-05-27 20:20it only prints as a black flag with no color. Is that correct?
Yes, that is correct. The Anarchist flag is plain black.

@fabien, I haven't read that book but I will now; Annares sounds like somewhere I should be living :-)
That is staggeringly hilarious. :lol: The image came up black and I thought it was wrong so I googled the flags and all the ones I saw had red in them, hence my re-ask. :D

Flag added. @Random_Troll
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#25 Post by Random_Troll »

donald wrote: 2023-05-27 22:14I googled the flags and all the ones I saw had red in them
The bisected red and black version is associated with anarcho-communism, anarcho-syndicalism and libertarian socialism. The plain black flag is more universal and signifies a general repudiation of the state.
donald wrote: 2023-05-27 22:14Flag added
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#26 Post by Diesel330 »

The flag list missing the Vatican flag and the EU flag, they should be added

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#27 Post by Random_Troll »

Sorry for being such a pedant but the newly-added Anarchist flag appears to be a 32x32 black square rather than a 32x24 flag shape. Would it be possible to use a PNG generated from my posted SVG? That embeds the correct aspect ratio against a transparent background.

Thanks again.
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#28 Post by cds60601 »

Isnt the inclusion of the anarchist flag more a statement on a political /economical belief and not as intended as to where geographically, you might reside? I think that if we go down that path, it's gonna open up Pandora's box.
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#29 Post by Random_Troll »

I would submit that including nation-state identifiers is in itself "a statement on a political / economic belief" and as such I am simply requesting that my political opinion is taken into account, as per the diversity aims espoused by @donald.

This isn't a critical issue for me though. I am happy to ignore the flag "feature" should the community decide not to acknowledge political diversity in respect of nationhood.
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#30 Post by cds60601 »

While I agree in part with your statement, I suspect that the (assumed) intent was simply meant as the geo-location to where one lives.
Then again, I'm a simple person and prefer to view things with a logical and common-sense point of view.
Unfortunately, this world appears to lack both.
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cds60601 wrote: 2023-05-28 17:48I suspect that the (assumed) intent was simply meant as the geo-location to where one lives.
Isn't that what the "Location" bit in the user profile is for?
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#32 Post by cds60601 »

It could be
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#33 Post by fabien »

Well, there are also several proposed flags for planet Earth, but now I don't know what the Klingons think of them.

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#34 Post by Random_Troll »

^ Image?

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Random_Troll wrote: 2023-05-28 18:55 ^ Image?

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Oh yeah. Klingons wont like that one
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fabien wrote: 2023-05-28 18:53 Well, there are also several proposed flags for planet Earth, but now I don't know what the Klingons think of them.
Indeed. Nor will the flat earthers
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#37 Post by donald »

Okay.

The flags are just plumage. While one *could* associate a political/religious/belief system behind each and every one of them, we should rise above that. On these particular forums we will add any flag or identifiers members ask for as long as they as not insensitive or offensive. Members who choose their flags or request flags to be added are not asking for discourse on something that they have already made visibly with an identifier.
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#38 Post by donald »

Random_Troll wrote: 2023-05-28 17:36 I would submit that including nation-state identifiers is in itself "a statement on a political / economic belief" and as such I am simply requesting that my political opinion is taken into account, as per the diversity aims espoused by @donald.

This isn't a critical issue for me though. I am happy to ignore the flag "feature" should the community decide not to acknowledge political diversity in respect of nationhood.
You will do no such thing. Your flag is welcome. If needed I will add it to my profile.

Random_Troll wrote: 2023-05-28 16:59 Sorry for being such a pedant but the newly-added Anarchist flag appears to be a 32x32 black square rather than a 32x24 flag shape. Would it be possible to use a PNG generated from my posted SVG? That embeds the correct aspect ratio against a transparent background.

Thanks again.
I cheated and did it in Gimp. :) Will fix tomorrow. Good catch.
cds60601 wrote: 2023-05-28 20:02
fabien wrote: 2023-05-28 18:53 Well, there are also several proposed flags for planet Earth, but now I don't know what the Klingons think of them.
Indeed. Nor will the flat earthers
I have to admit I laughed for a solid 5 minutes at this and now all the dogs are barking. :lol:
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#39 Post by Hallvor »

donald wrote: 2023-05-29 03:40 Okay.

The flags are just plumage. While one *could* associate a political/religious/belief system behind each and every one of them, we should rise above that. On these particular forums we will add any flag or identifiers members ask for as long as they as not insensitive or offensive. Members who choose their flags or request flags to be added are not asking for discourse on something that they have already made visibly with an identifier.
Donald, I think we are heading down a slippery slope here, and I do believe that Random_Troll made this request to make a mockery out of a nice idea: To show everyone that we are a community with members all over the globe.

There is a big difference between a political ideology and a flag. While the political ideology shows, according to Sartori, ethical values, how wealth and burdens should be distributed, and who should be in power, a flag is different. It is true that flags may show adherence to a certain political ideology: The Norwegian flag consists of a cross and red, white, blue. So there is Christianity and the ideals from the French revolution of freedom, equality and fraternity. Not everyone will support these ideas, though. We are generally much less religious than the average American, who do not have religious symbols in their flag, and there is much diversity behind that flag alone: Some are conservatives, some are liberal, some are socialists and others are communists or anarchists. We even have the odd fascist and neo nazi.
I would submit that including nation-state identifiers is in itself "a statement on a political / economic belief" and as such I am simply requesting that my political opinion is taken into account, as per the diversity aims espoused by @donald.
This is where you lump together too many things and paint with too broad a brush. A country flag does not necessarily represent a nation state, meaning representing an ethnicity with a common language, culture and history. Substantial minorities are the norm. As for the criteria of the nation state: I am Norwegian, and I can easily understand a Swede 1270 kilometers from here. However, I can only with great difficulty understand a Norwegian living 150 kilometers inland. Culturally, I have more in common with a Dane living 120 kilometers from here than a Norwegian living 1640 kilometers away.

It is true that flags may be political or even religious statements, but I will argue that the real diversity behind each one of them will more or less null out political statements in them, so that we are left with a geographical and political (entity) area. Flagging your personal political ideology is something very different, and much more divisive, than showing where you live.
On these particular forums we will add any flag or identifiers members ask for as long as they as not insensitive or offensive.
Political ideologies will always be insensitive or offensive to some, and let me say that anarchism offends me. I guess you have two options: 1. You decide from your own values and trump the sensitivity of others. That's fine, though I have the feeling that the anarchist above would not be pleased with that sort of authoritarianism. 2. Present some objective criteria that leaves out any arbitrariness.
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#40 Post by donald »

@Hallvor As a Global Moderator and trusted Forum administrator, I yield this thread to you. I have stated my intention on the feature and do not want my 'title' or otherwise to lean this particular discussion.

I do and can understand everyone's viewpoints.

In my area of living and mindset I am ambivalent to all of the expressed viewpoints, I do understand where each of the posters are come from.

Some of them may indeed be debasing the intention of the feature.

If 'members' wish to troll it or make it more than it was intended to be ... the feature will be removed or those members will be removed.

During that timeframe, I'm going to un-subscribe from this thread and wish that our fellow members showcase maturity and empathy.

I only ask that everyone reading this thread, RE-READS this thread from page 1, and considers not posting or arguing in it.
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